I had the same reasoning...  but apparently it's in the road rules...
whoever wrote the rules must have had a handbrake ratchet made from tin or
something.  I evetually got used to holding the button in which I then
progressed to becoming quite skill at using the handbrake while the vehicle
was moving.


From: Paul Stanley




----- Original Message -----
From: Rob P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: driving manual


> I had an anally retentive instructor who kept telling me to press the
> handbrake button when pulling on the handbrake to stop the ratchet from
> wearing out! On a mitsubishi colt (it was his own car). I'm no engineer,
but
> I'd say that wear and tear on that part would be pretty minimal, but the
> noise is a bit harsh so I press the button now anyway. Even my first car,
a
> 1957 Morris Minor did'nt have any visible wear on that part (in 1984). I
> doubt if we'll see many 45 year old mitsubishi colts!
>
>
> Rob P
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 8:42 PM
> Subject: Re: driving manual
>
>
> > I remember when my sister got her license she said she drove around at
40
> > everywhere.  About 4 years later I did the same and failed partly
because
> of
> > 'driving too slow'.  Also, I dont remember where I was instructed to go
on
> > the test, but when I actually did 60 the guy reckoned it was a 40 zone,
> even
> > though I distinctly saw a shiney new 60 sign a short distance back.
> >  I figured my best bet was to take a rather portly tester out on a hot
> > Friday afternoon at about 4:30pm in the afternoon heat...  he failed me
on
> > not holding the button in on the handbrake when I pulled it on, but
> > otherwise he said I drove perfectly, told them to pass me and headed
home
> > from work :)
> >
> > I personally never give advice to young 'uns because of that experience,
> but
> > I'm still always open to advice.
> >
> > From: Paul Stanley
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Geordie Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 4:59 AM
> > Subject: RE: driving manual
> >
> >
> > > For the driving test, they are looking for slow and careful driving.
> They
> > > want you to prove you drive safe. That's all. Drive like a granny,
drive
> > > like your in a limousine and they will be happy.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Julian
> > > Sent: Sunday, 1 December 2002 12:49 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: driving manual
> > >
> > >
> > > lol, u should have got manual at the start :)
> > >
> > > Couple of tips I remember from my licence:
> > >
> > > T intersections stop anyway,even if give way.
> > > Go slow around corners if in doubt.
> > > When stopped keep clutch in and change into first just after you stop.
> > > You should always take corners in the correct gear for the corner.
This
> > > means change BEFORE the corner.  Usually 2nd for corners, especially
for
> > > your test.
> > > I don't know what you mean by "ring its neck" but if that means push
the
> > > clutch to the floor, then yes.  When you are about to go take it to
the
> > > friction point.
> > >
> > > In Vic we are encouraged to take the test with the instructor.  Like
> > > Terry said, a lesson or two would be beneficial if you are worried,
they
> > > know what the instructors are looking for in your state/locality.
> > >
> > > hope this helps
> > > - Julian
> > >
> > > Terry Rudd wrote:
> > >
> > > >Paul,
> > > >
> > > >I think you have the answer on how to drive a manual, when to change
> > etc -
> > > >take a drive in the pass seat with your GF as it's much easier to be
> > shown
> > > >how to do something than read about it per say. The suggestion on
> getting
> > a
> > > >couple of lessons from a professional is a good one, it should only
> take
> > a
> > > >couple to get manual competency.
> > > >
> > > >regards
> > > >Terry
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul
Stanley
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, 27 November 2002 12:01 PM
> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Subject: Re: driving manual
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >My computer blew up and I'm stuck using a P100 dunger, and this is my
> 3rd
> > > >attempt to reply to this email.
> > > >
> > > >What I wanted to know was how to take corners "by the book"?  For eg
if
> > I'm
> > > >turning right and I'm stopped, where am I allowed to put clutch in?
Do
> I
> > > >ring it's neck in first gear?
> > > >
> > > >Rick, yes my post was quite stupid...  if you check the archives
you'll
> > > >notice a lot of stupid questions from me... it's what I do.  But
> > seriously,
> > > >I have an open license and I forgot I was still on L's for manual...
> it's
> > a
> > > >QLD thing, and I grew up in NSW where you used to get a manual
license
> > for
> > > >free after a year IIRC.
> > > >
> > > >I have to keep up with the girlfriend now that she is more qualified
to
> > > >drive a manual than me.
> > > >
> > > >From: Paul Stanley
> > > >      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: Terry Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 11:59 PM
> > > >Subject: RE: driving manual
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>Most states automatically qualify you to drive a manual after 12
> months
> > > >>although you have to get your licence endorsed - apparently no test
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >required
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>in the ACT which is a bit dubious. My oldest is doing his advanced
> tests
> > > >>(x5) in an auto at the moment, then he drives for another 13 weeks
on
> > P's
> > > >>and then does 2 more advanced lessons on a racetrack (Fairbairn Pk)
if
> > you
> > > >>don't mind to buy what we call here as "P offs" and at the same time
> > this
> > > >>usually qualifies you for manual endorsement. So as of mid Feb. 2003
> he
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >can
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>drive a manual or an auto and doesn't have to display P's either.
The
> > PCA
> > > >>and points rules still apply but speed restrictions don't - I guess
it
> > > >>called buying a licence and I hope the system works.
> > > >>
> > > >>I guess the police are a bit lenient if you've been driving an auto
> for
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >over
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>12 months, otherwise you've been very lucky and very silly at the
same
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>regards
> > > >>Terry
> > > >>
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom
> Richardson
> > > >>Sent: Monday, 18 November 2002 10:12 PM
> > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>Subject: Re: driving manual
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Paul,
> > > >>
> > > >>I didn't even know you were supposed to have a separate license for
> > > >>driving a manual, so good thing I just bought an auto :)
> > > >>
> > > >>AFAIK you don't have to put your foot on the clutch at lights - I
was
> > > >>told not to because it prematurely wears the spigot bearing.
> > > >>
> > > >>- Tom
> > > >>
> > > >>Paul Stanley wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>I got pulled over today by some police because I had no front plate
> > since
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >I
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>had it off for painting... and I forgot I was still on learners for
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >manual
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>license...  the cop let me off 2 tickets... one being technically
> > > >>>unlicensed.  The only other time I got pulled over was for a U-turn
> at
> > > >>>lights with no U-turn permitted sign... I actually didnt know about
> > that
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>law
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>at the time.. .they let me off.  I got nothing against police at
> all...
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >if
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>you dont do anything stupid they normally let you off...
> > > >>>
> > > >>>I never actually read the road rules specific to driving manuals.
> > Should
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >I
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>read up or are there just some basic pointers I should keep in
mind,
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>because
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>I want to go get my manual license.  Something about chaging gears
> too
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>late,
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>or during a corner?  It's not that easy in my Datto because if you
> try
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >and
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>make a turn in 3rd you havent got enough power, and if you change
> back
> > to
> > > >>>second before the turn you have to be doing about 30...  so I guess
> > I'll
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >be
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>corning either really fast or really slow for the test.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>I am also told that when you are stopped at lights etc you should
be
> in
> > > >>>first gear with the clutch in...  I can do that.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>From: Paul Stanley
> > > >>>     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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>

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