I agree. speeding is stupid.   but gadgets are cool :)

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From: "David Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: Off topic, radar +speeding


> Matt,
> I agree here, up to a point. I lost my license a couple of years ago for
> speeding. So I tend not to. Plus in the majority of cases where I do see
> people speeding its completely inappropriate. Ie tight two land roads and
> the like.
> What I do object to is the so-called `evidence' (statistics) which
> support the goverments basis for all this speeding shit: it saves lives.
> What a crock. They had in the paper the other day the annual road
> casualties since recordings began in 1954. And guess what? Its actually
> lower now than it was then, take into account all the extra cars on the
> roads, the extra average amount of time people spend in cars etc etc and
> what do you come to the conclusion? It is a lot safer to drive now. I
> dunno about you, but I don't think that the massive anti-speeding
> campaign undertaken in the last 10 years or so has made any significant
> difference. People will be people, and I still see people speeding all
> the time.
> I believe it is due, atleast in some part, to the improvements in
> technology. Ie, ABS, TC, SRSs and the like, and improvements in braking
> performance for family sedans. Ie compare a 1975 HJ's stopping distance
> and avoidance ability with that of a 2003 VY. (1975 had the highest
> fatalities with 1020ish).
> So, while I do believe that speeding does make accidents more serious, I
> don't believe it has the ability to overcome the advances in safety
> technology, especially now and in the future. And for this reason,
> they're ``its for your own good'' line is a load of!
> No, its just another way to tax us. They can't do it the old-fashioned
> way (raising taxes) you see because then they have no justification aside
> from ``we need the money'' so they up all the fines and costs of
> everything and bingo, get the same thing anyway.
>
> Dave
>
> Original Message dated 8/19/03, 9:49:52 PM
> Author: Matthew Cherry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Re: Re: Off topic, radar +speeding:
>
>
> sorry to be a prick to y'all ... but i honestly reckon ...... wouldnt be
> easier to not speed? it's cheaper ... & u save fuel!!!! if ur gunna speed
> u should get caught!!!
> dats my 2 cents anyhow!
>
> Matt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lach
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:28 PM
> Subject: RE: Off topic, radar +speeding
>
> OK. Let me tell you how this system sucks. My ex got a letter in the mail
> saying she ran a red right turn arrow. She denied it and went to see the
> pictures. They showed her stopped at a red light with her front wheels
> just over the white line. To add insult to injury, the cameras take four
> frames and in every one, she was in the same spot (ie. Stationary) with
> her brake lights on. Verdict, guilty. Guilty of a having a fucking
> conscience and stopping at a red light but not squeezing the brakes
> enough to pull up on their little spot. Screw them and their fund
> raising.
>
> Lach
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jimmy
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Off topic, radar +speeding
>
> I am sorry I could've sworn I said RED LIGH AND SPEED CAMERAS. This is
> how they idnetify your rego, they take a picture of the rear or front of
> your car and send it to you...sometimes.
>
> There is one on antill and northborne aswell, near dickson
>
> Lach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Umm, if its under the road, how does it pick up the rego number? The
> only one I know of is the red light one at Northbourne and Barry Drive.
> There must be a camera somewhere.
>
> Lach
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailtoo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jimmy
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 12:25 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Off topic, radar +speeding
>
>
> In case anyone is interested, Canberra has just installed a speed trap
> under the roads along northbourne avenue. By this I mean it has detectors
> that actually determine how fast the car is travelling when it passes
> over the top. This effectively means you CANNOT speed along this road. I
> just received two phone calls from my dad and girlfriend saying 'i just
> got a letter in the mail' so I am $200 out of pocket and I only just got
> all my points back. Was only going 10km over the limit obviously.
>
> So they now have speed cameras, red light cameras and these things on
> this road, speeding will be a thing of the past soon.
>
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