Carbies have a butterfly, that shuts airflow in the carby throat, which sslows the fuel from getting sucked through the jets, efi doesn't work like that does it ?? I dunno?? Rick White. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Charles Scealy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:28 PM Subject: Re: How free should T03 impeller rotate?
> I think you might be right. Really it cant hurt the motor, after all > carbies dont have a decel cut off and it doesnt hurt the motor. > > On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, ryanmel wrote: > > > i think decel cut off is mainly for fuel efficiency, may be wrong, but > > pretty sure > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 5:29 PM > > Subject: Re: How free should T03 impeller rotate? > > > > > > > Justin was right on the money - the TPS was playing up, reading 0% > > > when it shouldn't (I didn't print or save the last datalog otherwise I > > > might have noticed this earlier - but it was obvious when reading the > > > engine data tonight after work on the trusty Toshiba). > > > > > > I disabled decel cutoff and recalibrated the TPS and woohoo! around the > > > block I go and what a relief - I had contemplated $$$ check & rebuild > > > on the turbo such was my paranoia. Now I wonder what the implications > > > are of not running with decel cutoff on my motor - pretty well stock > > > FJ20 Turbo with 2.5" exahust. > > > > > > Previously when it self-corrected it lead me to look at the turbo - > > > when in fact it simply must have been repeated rotation of the TPS > > > which flicked back into life. So now gotta add the laptop to my > > > emergency tool box anytime I venture more than a few hours walk from > > > home ;-( > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 04:21 PM, Robert Charles Scealy wrote: > > > > > > > Just testing a theory, on your old log does it only go to 32 when you > > > > are above 1700 rpm? Does it only go to 8 when you are off the throttle? > > > > And when you are on the throttle at all but under 1700rpm does it go to > > > > 0? And are all the occurances of the code 40 happen when you are both > > > > off the throttle and engine revs are about 1700rpm? > > > > > > > > On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > >> Here's the quote from a Tuner on the Haltech forum, I'm still > > > >> awaiting a reply > > > >> from Haltech support. > > > >> > > > >> ============================== > > > >> Hi Mark, > > > >> The engine flags reading in the software is really quite difficult to > > > >> dechipher > > > >> unless you really know what your looking at and even then they are of > > > >> limited > > > >> use. This is really a Haltech in-house debug tool .. wont really help > > > >> you. > > > >> > > > >> It sound like you have the decel cutoff feature catching you out. > > > >> > > > >> Step 1. Make sure your TPS is connected and correctly calibrated... > > > >> Best to recalibrate it to be sure ... very easy ... go to Menu and > > > >> select > > > >> calibrate throttle and do what it tells you to do. > > > >> > > > >> Step 2. > > > >> Go to the Fuel setup page and see if "decel cutoff" in enabled or > > > >> disabled. > > > >> > > > >> My bet is that decel cutoff is enabled at 1700 rpm and that is what > > > >> is going > > > >> on .... Decel cutoff will cut fuel at the set RPM when ever the > > > >> engine is above > > > >> the setpoint and at zero tps. > > > >> > > > >> It will cut back in if you come back below set RPM or if throttle > > > >> exceeds 1% > > > >> > > > >> Best thing to is to turn it off ... do your tuning ... and then > > > >> re-activate it > > > >> if you want to use it .. some engines are better off without it > > > >> (ported > > > >> rotaries for example) > > > >> > > > >> I hope that helps > > > >> > > > >> Regards > > > >> Justin K > > > >> Tweakit Performance > > > >> Sydney Australia > > > >> ========================== > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Quoting Robert Charles Scealy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >> > > > >>> I find it interesting that they say it is a debug flag, and that 32 > > > >>> + 8 > > > >>> = 40. It sounds to me like value 32 and value 8 are not supposed to > > > >>> occur together. Do you have the exact wording of what the Haltech > > > >>> board > > > >>> said about these flags? > > > >>> > > > >>> The only time I have ever spun turbos I would say I have been able to > > > >>> flick them hard enough to maybe a couple of revolutions. > > > >>> > > > >>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> Trying to diagnose my FJ20ET F9 ECU that cuts out at ~1700 rpm - I > > > >>> thought > > > >>>> maybe turbo was not healthy and removed the filter and intake > > > >>>> piping - I > > > >>> can > > > >>>> rotate the compressor impeller quite easily - I don't expect that it > > > > > >>> should > > > >>>> just spin almost without friction or should it? > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I ran a datalog on a laptop and the printout shows that at the > > > >>>> precise time > > > >>> of > > > >>>> cutout (or surging if I maintain a steady throttle at around 1,700 > > > >>>> rpm) > > > >>>> the "engine flag" value changes from 8 to 40 and inj m/sec goes to > > > >>>> 0.000. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Advice from the Haltech board is the flags are an "in house debug > > > >>>> tool" > > > >>> and > > > >>>> hard to decipher. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Examining an older log when engine ran fine I do see an occasional > > > >>>> value of > > > >>> 40 > > > >>>> with inj m/sec 0.0000, but only rarely. Mostly it reads 0, 8, or 32. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Also suggested was to disable decel cut-off and recalibrate the TPS > > > >>>> both > > > >>> which > > > >>>> I'll try tonight after work. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Mark.JT > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
