My children often became seriously ill after receiving multiple
vaccinations.  Their immune systems seemed seriously overloaded.

Liz

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Isparklaria
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 10:27 AM
To: Memphis Freethought Alliance
Subject: Re: Watching Religulous


On Oct 3, 4:50 pm, Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The
> preservative has been removed from most childhood vaccines for several
> years because of pressure from the public.


Thanks for this information Aaron. I did not know this and only
checked it after you mentioned it. Perhaps there is still some
relation to the vaccines, after all the rise in autism did correspond
with the increase in vaccinces. It is possible that so many
vaccinations in such a short periods of time could be the culprit.
After all the vaccines stimulate the immune system, perhaps in some
casses causing a temporary auto immune disorderm attacking the brain.
It seems that it would be far more reasonable to spread the vaccines
out over time and perhaps even delay them since maybe the children are
too young. It is also possible that the recent studies are tabacco
science.

On Oct 3, 4:50 pm, Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That is perfectly understandable, Liz.  Irrational, but understandable
> and human.  If I had children, I might feel the same way.  The
> preservative has been removed from most childhood vaccines for several
> years because of pressure from the public.  Unfortunately, the autism
> rate does not seem to have been affected, but thankfully in this case
> the cost and potential danger of removing the additive (it was there
> for a reason, after all) seems to be an acceptable price for the
> relief fear and doubt.
>
> Aaron
>
> On Oct 3, 3:52 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Agreed.  I don't necessarily trust the CDC or FDA or AMA or any other
fancy
> > set of capitol abbreviations.  I wouldn't recommend not vaccinating a
child,
> > but I wouldn't recommend injecting them with a substance that could even
> > POTENTIALLY cause permanent damage to their brain.
>
> > Liz
>
> > For the record, Noel had the thimerasol vaccines.  I will always wonder
> > what, if any effect they had on his developing brain.
>
> > liz
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
>
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > Isparklaria
> > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 3:31 PM
> > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance
> > Subject: Re: Watching Religulous
>
> > On Oct 3, 8:49 am, Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In the
> > > meantime, it is rational to accept the position summarized by the CDC,
> > > the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Medical Association
> > > and similar organizations in a better position to know the relevant
> > > research.  Especially since reductions in immunization rates can have
> > > such dangerous effects of their own.
>
> > I think that it might be wiser to insist on thimerasol free vaccines.
>
> > On Oct 3, 8:49 am, Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > "Robert Kennedy Junior and other knowledgeable people..."
>
> > > Well, then it *must* be true!  ;-)  I look forward to hearing how
> > > these "recent studies" fare in the scientific community.  In the
> > > meantime, it is rational to accept the position summarized by the CDC,
> > > the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Medical Association
> > > and similar organizations in a better position to know the relevant
> > > research.  Especially since reductions in immunization rates can have
> > > such dangerous effects of their own.
>
> > >http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/thimerosal.htm
>
> > > Aaron
>
> > > On Oct 2, 3:19 pm, Isparklaria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Robert Kennedy Junior and other knowledgable people have said that
the
> > > > recent studies done which claimed that there was not link between
> > > > thimerasol and autism were industry sponsered tabacco science!!!
>
> > > > On Oct 1, 11:07 am, Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I wish I could go, but I already have plans Friday.  I do have a
> > > > > question, though, since we haven't had a good argument in a few
> > > > > weeks.
>
> > > > > Several people had a minor crisis of conscience about Ben Stein's
> > > > > movie because they didn't want their money going to someone who
> > > > > promotes dangerous, anti-science ideas.  I get that.
>
> > > > > The last episode of The Skeptic's Guide to the Universe, one of my
> > > > > favorite podcasts, alluded to Bill Maher's crackpot ideas that
seem
> > > > > just as dangerous to me.  He has apparently jumped on the
anti-vaccine
> > > > > bandwagon, for example, and suggests that alternative "medicine"
is
> > > > > better than modern, pharmaceutical-oriented healthcare.  He even
told
> > > > > David Letterman to stop taking his heart medicine.
>
> > > > > I haven't verified much of this.  I just gleaned it from the
podcast
> > > > > and a quick Google search, but assuming it's true, does it affect
> > > > > anyone's feelings about paying to see Religulous?  I mean, sure,
this
> > > > > particular movie is not promoting pseudoscience, but money is
going to
> > > > > Maher.  Would we feel comfortable watching a Ben Stein movie that
was
> > > > > not specifically about Intelligent Design but still funneled money
to
> > > > > his ID activism?  Or is our conscience dulled by the schadenfreude
of
> > > > > seeing religious people look stupid on screen?
>
> > > > > There is probably no right-or-wrong answer here.  I'm just curious
to
> > > > > know what people think (or rationalize, depending on your point of
> > > > > view!).
>
> > > > > Aaron- Hide quoted text -
>
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