"...that is the lot of all Presidents now..." - clog
Yes, that is the result for idiots and dictators. Always has been,
always will be.

On Oct 18, 6:16 am, Clogtowner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi y'all - G W Bush has not travelled in the last 8 years. He has sat
> on Airforce 1 with no other passengers. He has been mollycoddled (what
> a great word) and isolated by CIA, MI6, AA, AAA etc. at his
> destination. Where he has seen local events, he could just as easily
> have done it on TV. Where he has met world leaders, he could just as
> easily have done it in his round office. He has not travelled in the
> sense that travel broadens the mind, as we have seen. Unfortunately,
> that is the lot of all Presidents now, therefore they must have
> travelled previous to their appointment.
>
> On Oct 17, 9:05 pm, "Jason (Memphis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Michael,
>
> > You are a liberal scum bag! ;-) (just kidding)  I grew up in a
> > socially conservative region of the country and considered myself
> > pretty socially conservative until religion hijacked and re-defined
> > the term "conservative".
>
> > Two Caveats About the Clip:
> > Hasty Generalization
> > I think that Haight is relatively on target but let us not make any
> > hasty generalizations.  Everyone does not fit neatly in those
> > categories.  There were 8 or more conservatives at that talk and a
> > dozen libertarians.
>
> > In politics, there are a number of exceptions.  John McCain claims
> > that he is a conservative and traveled quite a bit and exposes himself
> > to different viewpoints.  It does, however, seem to fit with the more
> > extreme conservative politicians such as George W. Bush and Sarah
> > Palin who never really explored the world outside the United States
> > until well into middle age, that is, Sarah left the country this year
> > at age 44 for the first time.  Compare that to liberals such as
> > Senator Obama and his wife who've been around the world, or Al Gore,
> > John Kerry, Bill Clinton who've also traveled and continue to travel
> > the global.
>
> > Causal Relationship
> > We also might want to consider that traveling my foster tolerance and
> > openness to new ideas (a keystone of liberalism).   George Bush and
> > Sarah Palin will be two case studies.  George Bush has traveled more
> > in the past 8 years than he ever has.  If I remember correctly, he was
> > only out of the country once or twice before becoming president.  Over
> > the years and especially now, he appears to becoming more and more
> > tolerant of opposing viewpoints, which could have a number of causes
> > such as travel? low rating? others?  In addition, young people who
> > travel and are exposed to different cultures and ideas tend to be more
> > liberal (or accepting of different cultures and ideas as well as
> > change).
> > _________
>
> > Still, that is a great talk!!!  And I highly recommend it.  Those
> > liberal and conservative categories generally fit and those five moral
> > categories are a great way to look at it.  Plus, I like his attack on
> > both sides for not trying to understand the other side.
>
> > Jason- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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