“…However, having data from others, such as scientists, it seems clear
that we all share pretty much the same innate moral sense, which
suggests that relying on this is a safe way to construct a society.
Many of the religious folk claim that if we each looked inside
ourselves for our own morality, we'd all end up with different moral
codes. The research of scientists suggests this isn't so.” – Taylor

Perhaps you or someone had addressed constructing a society earlier. I
don’t think it came up for me. IF this is an important concept to you,
perhaps you could expand a little more on it? The only suggestion
about it I can think of may have been when I used the term ethos.

>From my limited experience, I find that there are those who suggest
differing moral codes would arise too. Yet, so far, I see no
consistent common link when it comes to theism or atheism. I find it
just is one of the rainbow of beliefs that people in general come up
with.

I’m guessing you are an atheist? Sorry, I just don’t remember.
Guessing this to be the case, since it looks like we and scientists
agree that there is an innate and common ethos, other than simple
survival, do you find any other basis for this being the case? I would
guess you don’t embrace teleology.

I’ll share a little as to why I ask this. I am at a place where it
seems clear that, based upon the unity of humanity (in an ultimate
sense) the realization of and the transcendence of humanity to some of
the states I have pointed to elsewhere, is not only an historical and
inevitable reality, but in fact an absolute necessity for the survival
of mankind. Of course I am in no way suggesting you should share this
view. I merely present it to open the possibility of expanding this
delightful discussion into even more diverse facets.




On Nov 14, 5:24 pm, Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <<it looks like you are basing your position of “it IS” upon what
> others have said. I
> see this as at least a meme aspect of intellection.
>
> I find this quite different from a direct apprehension of “it IS”
> which is what I would expect if you were sharing what you base your
> view of the ‘innate’ aspect of ethics upon. >>
>
> If I understand you correctly, there are indeed two different aspects
> to this question.  I base my own morality on my own intuition, and
> this would probably be true no matter what anyone else in the world
> did, or what the scientists say.
>
> However, having data from others, such as scientists, it seems clear
> that we all share pretty much the same innate moral sense, which
> suggests that relying on this is a safe way to construct a society.
> Many of the religious folk claim that if we each looked inside
> ourselves for our own morality, we'd all end up with different moral
> codes. The research of scientists suggests this isn't so.
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