“That's as it should be. The majority doesn't have the right to steamroll over the minority.” – T
Yes, the majority should bow to the will of the minority and not hold their view(s) as being sacrosanct. “Obama needs to govern as a center left president, not a left left.” – T I would be happy if he governed as a centrist. I have little hope of that though. “Moreover, I'm skeptical that the majority actually supports the things on your list or even understands them.” – T Your skepticism is noted. Having followed the issue perhaps a little more closely than you, I hold no skepticism that the majority of people support the majority of those things. Yes, they may have to be phrased a little differently and/or explained in allegorical terms, ….perhaps even expanded upon some, but I hold no doubt of the truth of my assertion. “Many of items are phrased in such a way to coerce agreement, when the underlying meaning is unclear.” – T Strange…I find neither to be the case. “I potentially disagree with a great many of them, but it would depend on what specific proposals were put forward to effect these policy changes.” – T Of course, the ‘devil is in the details’. We all know this. I’m glad to hear that you support these views by the way. Since, according to my claim about the majority of the people doing so, the odds were in my favor though. “In any event, the items on your list are too rigid.” – T Uhh, now they are too rigid? All I did was to present a list of issues to support my point. In no way was it meant to be a political primer nor a sugar coated pill about issues. It was meant to be what it was, a concise list of issues. A clear point of view. Not some sort of politically correct ambivalence. Having said this in an attempt to clarify why I only made a list, how do you see these overviews as being ‘too rigid’? Earlier you said that ‘the underlying meaning is unclear’. These do not appear to be compatible. But, I would be interested in what your preferences in how they were phrased would be. “We have some problems to solve and it will take some exploration to figure out how to do so.” – T Absolutely! We always do. I welcome your participation in the process of said exploration! “Some of the ideas on your list may be appropriate, but others may be the hammer looking for the nail.” – T Sorry, too many qualifiers and analogies for me to have any clear view of what you are intending to say Taylor. Perhaps you could rephrase it… using examples? “Let's consider all the alternatives before deciding.” – T Alternatives? To what? There are untold issues before humanity. Many here in the USA. The list I provided included some of these issues. Obama does not appear to be interested in addressing these important issues. He will either leave them alone or do something in apparent opposition to the will of the majority. What sort of ‘alternative’ are you wanting to look at? And, what does that, when you clarify it, have to do with what you and I decide upon? Or, are you suggesting that Obama must start all over and think about everything before making decisions? I feel sure he hasn’t stopped looking at alternatives since he was born. I feel sure he has made numerous decisions and will continue to do so. I hope he will listen to wise counsel. Unfortunately, as I was pointing out, he appears to be selecting much of the ‘old guard’ that produced the current situation to be his advisors. This is how I can easily say that he will not produce much actual change when it comes to numerous important topics. However, perhaps he will surprise me and reject the ideas of some of these ideologues and supplant his own will, whatever that is since he hasn’t made it clear. At least not in any material way as being something in fact different. Oh, wait, he is different and his speaking style is different and he may give us more information than ‘W’. So, in these ways, yes there will be change. In the more important areas?…not so much, as I see it. On Nov 17, 3:37 pm, Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > <<I see him as ignoring the will of the people.>> > > That's as it should be. The majority doesn't have the right to > steamroll over the minority. Obama needs to govern as a center left > president, not a left left. > > Moreover, I'm skeptical that the majority actually supports the things > on your list or even understands them. Many of items are phrased in > such a way to coerce agreement, when the underlying meaning is > unclear. I potentially disagree with a great many of them, but it > would depend on what specific proposals were put forward to effect > these policy changes. > > In any event, the items on your list are too rigid. We have some > problems to solve and it will take some exploration to figure out how > to do so. Some of the ideas on your list may be appropriate, but > others may be the hammer looking for the nail. Let's consider all the > alternatives before deciding. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/memphisfreethoughtalliance?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
