Hi y'all - the ffrf have filed a lawsuit. I'm happy to contribute, but
I fear they will lose this one!

On Nov 26, 2:04 pm, "Jason (Memphis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I think that Daniels meant respect for religious beliefs but no
> respects for ideas that contradict those religious beliefs, that is,
> selective respect for those who think like him and disrespects and
> censorship for those who don't. ;-)
>
> Jason
>
> On Nov 25, 6:51 pm, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > ""We didn't say they had to (take it down), but they respected the
> > concerns
> > of residents," Daniels said. "
>
> > Clearly, IF respect of the concerns of residents were the issue, there
> > would be no churches in cities that have atheists...oh, wait...did I
> > say that? !!!!
>
> > On Nov 25, 1:33 pm, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > >  Controversial 'Imagine No Religion' billboard removed in Rancho 
> > > Cucamonga By
> > > Joe Smilor on November 20, 2008 10:01 PM
>
> > > A billboard with the message "Imagine No Religion" is no more.
>
> > > Sign company General Outdoor removed the sign by the Freedom From Religion
> > > Foundation on Thursday after it received a request by Rancho Cucamonga to 
> > > do
> > > so.
>
> > > According to Redevelopment Director Linda Daniels, City Hall had received 
> > > 90
> > > calls of complaint since Wednesday.
>
> > > "We contacted the sign company and asked if there was a way to get it
> > > removed," Daniels said.
>
> > > The billboard -- which went up last week on the southwest corner of
> > > Archibald Avenue and Foothill Boulevard -- is part of a national billboard
> > > campaign by the Wisconsin-based group advocating the separation of church
> > > and state.
>
> > > The foundation's co-president, Annie Laurie Gaylor, said the billboard is
> > > meant to encourage a debate on religion by using the John Lennon-inspired
> > > message.
>
> > > Gaylor was shocked over the city's role in the billboard's demise.
>
> > > "The city has no business suggesting our billboard be censored," Gaylor
> > > said. "They're not allowed to interfere over religious controversy."
>
> > >  It was the second billboard to come down following city request.
>
> > > In September, the city asked a different sign company to take down an
> > > advertisement on Foothill Boulevard advertising a vagina rejuvenation
> > > procedure.
>
> > > Daniels said the city did not demand General Outdoor take down the 
> > > "Imagine
> > > No Religion" sign.
>
> > > "We didn't say they had to (take it down), but they respected the concerns
> > > of residents," Daniels said.
>
> > > The sign was the first in California for the foundation, whose members are
> > > atheists and agnostics.
>
> > > Gaylor said sign companies have declined business before, but no company 
> > > has
> > > taken down a sign after it went up.
>
> > > The group currently has signs in Atlanta, Phoenix and Seattle.
>
> > > "My gosh, we have a billboard in Colorado Springs right now, about a mile
> > > from Focus on the Family," said Gaylor, referring to the evangelical
> > > organization headquartered in Colorado Springs. "If we can have it in
> > > Colorado Springs, why not in Rancho Cucamonga? It doesn't speak well for 
> > > the
> > > state of tolerance if you have to stifle your critics."
>
> > > Peter Scheer, executive director of the California First Amendment
> > > Coalition, said the city's actions are "dangerously close" to censorship 
> > > and
> > > a violation of the First Amendment.
>
> > > "A city government has no business trying to dictate or influence the
> > > content of an advertising image, particularly one that's political and
> > > controversial as this is simply because some people don't like it and
> > > complained about it," Scheer said. "The whole point of the First Amendment
> > > is to protect speech that is unpopular, to protect the views that are in 
> > > the
> > > political minority, as long as they don't cross the line and use the 
> > > speech
> > > for some seriously unlawful purpose, which clearly did not happen here."
>
> > > Scheer said the city may not have forced General Outdoor to take down the
> > > sign, but it's obvious the company did not act independently.
>
> > > "It's pretty clear that if the city didn't pick up the phone, the image
> > > would still be there," Scheer said.
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