"You should take a trip on down to see us.  I think I speak for many
of us
when I say that we already feel we know you.
liz "

Guessing this was directed toward Taylor, I'll merely say that when I
get in that area of the country, I too will try to 'come on down!'.

On Dec 7, 8:15 am, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You should take a trip on down to see us.  I think I speak for many of us
> when I say that we already feel we know you.
>
> liz
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
>
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> ornamentalmind
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 9:58 PM
> To: Memphis Freethought Alliance
> Subject: Re: MFA Feedback - Taglines
>
> Preston, thanks for this information. It helps me to grok the mission
> more. Some day I'd like the opportunity to question some of these
> listed purposes.
>
> On Dec 5, 10:47 pm, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Taylor-
>
> > Freethought is a term that has a historical context and is not simply
> unfettered thought.  It is characterized by "thought unrestrained by
> deference to authority, esp. in matters of religion".  Freethinker is
> defined as "one who forms his opinion independently of authority or
> tradition, esp. in matters concerning religion".  I suggest reading Susan
> Jacoby's Freethinkers  to get a feel for the historical meaning which, by
> the way, is replete with reason and rational thought.
>
> > Virtually all the actual members that I know do use rational thought and
> reason to find truth.  Members pay dues and fill out a form that portrays
> the group (see below) though they do not commit by signing a statement.
>  This is a very good point we should take up.
>
> > The googlegroups discussion board and MFA Listserve are open to anyone who
> signs up and is not necessarily representative of MFA's statement of purpose
> as per our bylaws or our membership.  That statement follows:
>
> > The Memphis Freethought Alliance is composed of atheists, agnostics,
> skeptics, non-theistic naturalists, secular humanists and others who share
> our vision. We are joining together to defend the separation of church and
> state, the need for freedom from religion, and to counter religious myths
> and other supernatural beliefs with rational, scientific and other secular
> philosophical concepts.  Our purposes are as follows:
>
> >   a.. We foster an environment suitable for free speech and exchange of
> ideas.
>
> >   b.. We provide a forum for educational films and lectures.
>
> >   c.. We defend the constitutional separation of church and state as well
> as oppose government sponsored religious events.
>
> >   d.. We defend the teaching of scientific theories over non-scientific
> theories in public school science classes.
>
> >   e.. We oppose pseudoscience, flim-flam, fraud, myths, misleading
> information, and hoaxes in the media.
>
> >   f.. We recognize the civil rights of atheists, agnostics, secular
> humanists and others who do not believe in god(s) or other supernatural
> forces.
>
> >   g.. We seek to improve society through secular humanism, science and
> critical thinking, and rational philosophical discourse.
>
> >   h.. We provide a fellowship for people who share these purposes listed
> above.
>
> > While this statement and associated points may include more than forming
> opinions from reason and rational thought, none of it is particularly
> contrary.  Science, reason and rational thought are the pillars upon which
> our small organization (not the discussion board) is based.
>
> > I do think our mission statement should be tweaked and perhaps more
> focused and this was precisely what our last meeting addressed.  Being the
> stalwart defender of science that you are, I would love for you to join us
> sometime, that is, if you are still in the area.
>
> > Preston
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Memphis Freethought Alliance"
> <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: MFA Feedback - Taglines
>
> > > <<"A non-prophet association" >>
>
> > > That's funny the first time you hear it, but not after that.  I
> > > wouldn't use it.
>
> > > Since you call the organization "free" thought rather than "rational"
> > > thought, I'm not sure you can legitimately use "reason" in any slogan,
> > > since your members have not precommitted themselves to valuing only
> > > reason to discover truth.  Perhaps you should communicate something to
> > > the effect of being anti-dogma.- Hide quoted text -
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