Too much happiness is an illness and the world is not seen
realistically through the lens of clinical happiness, which is
sometimes medication/drug induced.

On Jan 23, 3:37 pm, "Jason (Memphis)" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Too much happiness is an illness. :)
>
> On Jan 23, 3:21 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Well, you had me until the end.  I take it that you have never suffered from
> > severe clinical depression.  Suicide is not usually a well thought out
> > course for a person who has calmly and objectively considered his or her
> > options.
>
> > There is unhappiness, shame, anger, frustration, grief, sadness, loneliness,
> > and a whole spectrum of non happiness that should be recognized as natural
> > states of being, I agree.  There is no reason to suppose that humans are
> > "supposed" to be happy, but again, clinical depression is an illness.  The
> > world is not seen realistically through the lens of depression, and I'm glad
> > that I had enough mind left in my depressive psychosis to seek intervention,
> > or else I might not be here today.
>
> > But, again, I agree with you that happiness is over rated.  I am sometimes
> > at my most creative when I have a good dose of angst.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
>
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason
> > (Memphis)
> > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 2:03 PM
> > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance
> > Subject: Re: Is this country suffering from a Negativity Meme?
>
> > What is wrong with suicide?   If a person wants to take his or her own
> > life, that is his or her perogative.  That is one less loser (not
> > necessarily though) you have to worry about.
>
> > People can be optimistic.  That is their freedom.  However, don't get
> > upset or think something is wrong with people who are pessimistic.
> > Again, my original point: if you are pessimistic in this American
> > society, people think that you should change or that something is
> > wrong with you.   If you are depressed, people around you think that
> > you are not content with your disabiling misery.  There is so much
> > pressure to be happy.  If I want to sleep all day and comtemplate
> > suicide while I am awake, what gives you the right to stop me or to
> > claim that is wrong?
>
> > On Jan 23, 10:35 am, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >   Aren't Delusional and Optimistic two different things? Why couldnt you
> > say
> > > this country is too collectively delusional in parts (rapture etc) but
> > don't
> > > give optimism a totally naive pollyanna bent...it does not have to be.  A
> > > suicidal person has to have an optimist just beneath the skin to live
> > > another day:)
>
> > > Unfortunate that we don't celebrate reality even in our "reality tv".  Are
> > > you saying it is best to be panglossianly pessimistic so we are not
> > > dissapointed with reality when it smacks into us a 200mph? "pessimism of
> > the
> > > intellect, optimism of the will?"
>
> > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Jason (Memphis)
> > <[email protected]
>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > This country is way to optimistic.  Unfortunately, pessimism is not
> > > > celebrated in this country.
>
> > > > On Jan 23, 9:50 am, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Why such an absolute NO? I'm watching the Nancy Grace style talking
> > heads
> > > > > and it is startling and viscerally wrenching how negative she really
> > is
> > > > (bet
> > > > > you can find a meme or two in her hour of power) and you get pissed
> > just
> > > > > watching her...I want to soak her head in clorox.  NO, I am not saying
> > we
> > > > > are not in deepest Kimchee and should pretend otherwise...I think it
> > > > takes
> > > > > some serious creativity and guts to see anything good in this current
> > > > dung
> > > > > heap.  Just keep listening to all the conversations around...so much
> > of
> > > > them
> > > > > are snippets of negativity.  Have we always been this way or is this
> > that
> > > > > era?
>
> > > > > I know why people want to believe in Obama. This nation is deeply
> > > > > embarrassed, wholly pissed, and ultimately disillusioned with our
> > > > > politicians. WE want a hero, or at worst, someone competent. Can you
> > > > imagine
> > > > > how Obama feels having all of us believing in him? Not vain or power
> > > > drunk
> > > > > maybe, but scared shitless? Motivated! His whole family is on the
> > altar
> > > > and
> > > > > he gets the very real chance to be superdad!   IF he can deliver bit
> > by
> > > > bit,
> > > > > this could be revolution! National, personal, just a tiny bit global!
>
> > > > >  I'm just sick of shitslinging! I've got a bucket, rag, and smile!
>
> > > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Jason (Memphis)
> > > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > > > No
>
> > > > > > On Jan 22, 2:51 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >  > Is negativity a habit? mindset? a dark set of glasses?  We seem
> > to
> > > > > > enjoy
> > > > > > > rolling in it and belittling the positive...Oh right, we are up to
> > > > our
> > > > > > necks
> > > > > > > in kimchee.  But, how can you find the bright side unless you are
> > > > looking
> > > > > > > for it?
>
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