ARIN rules could be difficult to impose on pre-IANA blocks; Nortel had IP addresses before IANA and ARIN came into existence, so this may go to court if ARIN wants to block it. But Microsoft could have a right to ask for these addresses as they are into cloud services which needs a lot of IPs, so ARIN may agree. And IANA records shows Bell Northern Research, later part of Nortel, was assigned its own /8 block in January 1991.
Supply and demand rules mean that IPv4 address costs will only go up, so Microsoft likely got a really good deal. And Asia-Pacific v4 addresses, from APNIC, are drying up within a month (by April !), so the v4 shortage situation will be worse. Even if one has enough v4 addresses , we will reach a point sometime within the next 2 years when we will need v6 access to connect to global IP services that are starved of v4. Regards, -Ahmed From: Lu Heng Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 3:27 AM To: Owen DeLong Cc: [email protected] ; Brian Candler Subject: Re: [menog] Microsoft offered $7.5M for Nortel's IPv4 So, If I may ask, what is ARIN's current position and what can be ARIN's possible re-action(general speaking)? On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:40 AM, Owen DeLong <[email protected]> wrote: On Mar 28, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Brian Candler wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:49:45PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: >>> ARIN "opened its doors for business on 22 December 1997". So perhaps Nortel >>> got their address space prior to that? >> >> Quite probably, but, I don't think that matters in terms of transfer policy. > > What I'm saying is: if they never signed an agreement with ARIN, then they > might not be bound by its rules. Nortel may or may not be bound by ARIN's rules, but, ARIN is the registry and as such, if you want a transfer recognized in the registry, you will need to conduct the transfer according to the policies present in the registry. Outside of the registry, anyone who wants to can run their own internet using whatever rules they choose to. Of course, what happens when one attempts to connect one of these other private internets to the IANA/RIR/RFC cooperating internet is rather vague and undefined and I leave speculations about such as an exercise for the reader. Owen _______________________________________________ Menog mailing list [email protected] http://lists.menog.net/mailman/listinfo/menog -- -- Kind regards. Lu This message is a private communication. It may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, or use it, and do not disclose it to others. Please notify the sender of the delivery error by replying to this message, and then delete it and any attachments from your system. Use of this e-mail is prohibited when received in error. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Menog mailing list [email protected] http://lists.menog.net/mailman/listinfo/menog
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