Thanks, I'll check out your salad ;). As to the first issue, I think you make my point well. If you want to push the implementation issues into the work steps or even lower, you should not have the statement: "When I go to /login" Which states a specific path. What if the path is "/sessions/new". What if the statement was: "When I go to update a post" and because your following resource path rules, the path is actually "/posts/123/edit". Do we train the people writing the scenarios on the default naming of CRUD based resources? How much magic do we need to put into the work steps to allow natural language scenarios? For many of us, the person writing the tests is also the developer and there is little point in building too much abstraction. Either way, a little abstraction is still useful. But to much abstraction? This is why I like using the name of the route, as the real path is already buried in implementation, your router.rb file.
I recall very similar discussions when use cases started to become popular in the early to mid 90s. The issue was "How much should the use case language be natural language versus using nomenclature of the developers?" It turns out the people writing use case are the same people assisting with defining the object model and their names. This is the perfect point where language needs to be bridged between user and developer. It is where nomenclature gets defined and refined. thanks, Jon On Dec 20, 12:15 pm, "Tze Yang Ng" <[email protected]> wrote: > Just voicing my thoughts: > > > 1 - Instead of "When I go to /login" I would like the option of > > writing "When I go to login" or When I go to :login" whereby if I > > don't pass in something that looks like a path, it will use the merb > > url() method to to get the path by name. Does someone have a hacked > > version of common_webrat.rb > > ME: personally i don't like this idea, cucumber's features is supposed > to bridge the gap between developers (technical) and end-users > (non-technical) ... an expression like "When I go to /login" is > obvious to all parties abt the intention of the step, that is, > accessing of "/login". > > Whereas "When I go to login" or "When I go to :login" don't, there is > an additional layer introduced, the non-technical guys may ask, how do > i go to "login" or ":login" ??? > > > 2 - Not sure the appropriate way to load sample data for cucumber > > tests. Are these called fixtures in cucumber? What are others doing > > here for datamapper test data? > > ME: Quite sometime ago, i done something > athttp://github.com/ngty/ty_cucumber_salad, haven't got the chance to > update it due to many other distractions in life. Anyway, u can find > the answers to ur this particular question there. > > Cheers > > == > > > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Jon Hancock <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I finally have the basics of cucumber working with Scenario Outlines. > > There are two things I need next: > > > 1 - Instead of "When I go to /login" I would like the option of > > writing "When I go to login" or When I go to :login" whereby if I > > don't pass in something that looks like a path, it will use the merb > > url() method to to get the path by name. Does someone have a hacked > > version of common_webrat.rb > > > 2 - Not sure the appropriate way to load sample data for cucumber > > tests. Are these called fixtures in cucumber? What are others doing > > here for datamapper test data? > > > thanks, Jon > > --http://ngty77.blogspot.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "merb" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/merb?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
