Mike - You're missing the point Marshall is trying to make here. the Benz is designed to rely on precision tolerances. This is very typical of German machinery. The Japanese products are more along the lines of our stuff, where they were designed with less critical tolerances. Just because one thing seems similar to another doesn't make it the same. I understand that in many cases one can get by with "fudging" at bit on the proper maintenance, but there is usually a price to pay because of it in the end. The factory boys know their hardware better than anyone else and don't require these procedures because they think it just looks better. They have put many years of research into the way they do things. Do the Japanese really have a better easier way to do things? As Ned said, only time will tell. I hope that the folks that maintain the airplanes that you fly in don't share Dan's view of cutting corners, just because he has always been able to get away with it. :^O As far as comparing the current crop of M/B cars to Japanese cars. Right now I believe that the Japanese may have an advantage, because for the last little while the Germans decided to give the "bean counters" a bigger say in how their cars are made, and quality has suffered a bit because of it. I believe that I heard they are going back to letting the engineers make more of those decisions in the future to try and regain their technological superiority. Lets hope so. By the way Dan, I take issue to your insinuation that that I am less intelligent because I personally believe the factory knows it machinery better than the average mechanic that works in the field, and because of that I have decided to follow the published procedures. Nor do I believe that folks that don't like to follow the published procedures are necessarily misfits. Maybe just a little lucky. ;^)
Barry -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 9:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dial Indicator - Measuring Runout DEAR SIR i worked at central city Toyota as I am sure you are aware Toyotas are not American cars some of the first Lexus cars began to be introduced way back then and to day as we are painfully aware the Lexus brand has out sold out engineered and held up much better than all current day Mb autos ( and believe me it galls the hell out of my to admit that!!!!) in the real world this is the way all autos are repaired , and they just keep rolling now I know there are some who ..wash there car with only the finest mineral water form the Swiss alps .... but you know what? it does not matter the slightest bit to the car I suppose if you are a shade tree guy you can take all kinda time do every little thing ..just so.... but to those of who want to get in ... turn the key and drive like i said before these aint the space shuttle ... its a car dude ...just enjoy it! mike collins 1985 500 sec