JFK was also a junior senator and several younger than Obama and no one
questions his leadership abilities.

On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Rich Thomas <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I appreciate your taking the time to actually answer the question.  Not
> that I find the answer compelling but it is one of two I have actually
> received that show at least a bit of thought, and I have asked several
> people.
>
> --R
>
> Wonko the Sane wrote:
> > My suggestion is to go listen to the man (and perhaps try to shake hands
> > with him and exchange a few words) when he comes through on a campaign
> > swing. Do the same with McCain. Then decide.
> >
> > It is impossible to quantify what will or will not make someone a good
> > President. I think it boils down to the personality and natural skills of
> > the individual. Some of our best Presidents seem to have come from the
> most
> > unusual backgrounds. Some of our worst (i.e., Nixon) were career
> > politicians.
> >
> > The best officer I served under in 20 years was a CWO4 -- no college, no
> > management training, nothing but time in service and the force of his own
> > personality and soft-spoken ways. He could make a decision and 99% of the
> > time he made the correct call. When he retired, our enlisted crew took up
> a
> > collection of over $1000 (a crew of less than 50 guys) to buy his
> retirement
> > presents as a token of how much we hated to see him go. He was tough and
> > ripped several of us "a new one" (including me occasionally, since I was
> a
> > supervisor) but he was a good leader who we loved and respected.
> >
> > Some of the worst officers with whom I served were well educated (USCG
> > Academy, then an MBA and then some additional post grad education, Navy
> War
> > College, etc., and had commanded vessels at sea -- big ones at a senior
> > level in their career) and had just as much time in service and
> experience
> > as the CWO4. But you PRAYED for these folks to retire and get out of your
> > life. They had the leadership ability of a mentally challenged slug.
> >
> > The CEO at my office has less education than I have -- he has but
> > *one*Bachelor's degree. However, his personality and his natural
> > leadership
> > ability (something I sorely lack) has grown us into one of the largest
> and
> > most respected corporations of our kind in Iowa, and perhaps in the
> > mid-west.
> >
> > Folks are going to say that Obama is all rhetoric. That isn't the case.
> It
> > is all about leadership qualities and the ability to efficiently manage
> > those working with you. Organizational skills are important, and I think
> he
> > has demonstrated those from time to time.
> >
> > Good leadership isn't something you learn or get from years working in
> the
> > government. It is something you either have or don't have.
> >
> > I think Obama has it. Not sure yet about McCain - he might or he might
> not.
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Rich Thomas <
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Again, what exactly qualifies this guy to be president?  Would you hire
> >> him to be CEO of General Motors, Continental Airlines, Exxon Mobil, IBM,
> >> Microsoft, all these comparatively small operations?
> >>
> >> I'm still trying to figure it out.
> >>
> >> --R
> >>
> >> Wonko the Sane wrote:
> >>
> >>> Careful how you talk about your next President.
> >>>
> >
> >
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