one of the reasons Real J**ps™ have solid axles isn't only the simplicity of them that someone mentioned, it's the fact that when a wheel moves up onto an obstacle the center differential has to move up somewhat with it improving clearance at the center as well. (this doesn't matter as much to off-roaders that see only mud, and doesn't happen nearly at all with IFS.) comparing vehicles of different weights or with/without lockers is irrelevant; it's comparing apples and oranges. most anything will work better in *some* situations with a Traction Aiding Device like a locker/limited slip, but even TADs aren't perfect for all situations.
as the owner of a J**p Cherokee (XJ) i special ordered over a decade ago to modify for off-pavement and have put over 200K miles on (much of that in the Great Unpaved), i don't see anything on the market that would replace my slightly modified XJ for any amount of money. that said, i'd still trade it for a 5-door G-Wagen with a 617 if i could find one in good enough shape... ;-) cheers! e '85 300D - 144K miles '94 J**p XJ - 204K miles (OME/TeraFlex custom suspension, JB Conversions custom NP231 Xfr case, Goodyear MT/Rs, etc.,...) '02 BMW GS Adventure - 37K miles > I remember reading that Jeep took flak from enthusiasts for putting > independent front suspension on the Liberty, but they contend that > it's just as tough as any other Jeep. > > http://www.jeepsonly.com/jeepliberty.html > > Tim > 1982 300TD Moby > > On 9/13/05, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yeah, that's basically the explanation I've always heard from my >> hard-core rock-crawling acquaintances, who turn up their noses at >> independent suspension (hence my comments about the new G---but I >> didn't know about the Range Rover system). >> >> On 9/12/05, TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Ahhh. Very good. Thank-you. >> > >> > Tim >> > 1982 300TD Moby >> > >> > On 9/13/05, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > TimothyPilgrim wrote: >> > > > Could someone elaborate why a solid axle is preferable to >> independent >> > > > suspension when it comes to a 4x4? >> > > >> > > It's easier to get a lot of suspension travel with a solid axle, >> > > especially in a situation where one wheel is on a tall obstacle and >> the >> > > other is on the ground. Off road types call this "articulation." >> It >> > > helps avoid situations where one wheel is hanging in mid air. >> Here's an >> > > extreme example: >> > > http://www.fag.hiof.no/~frodehaa/forandringer/pics/extreme%20articulation%20side.jpg >> > > >> > > Independent suspensions are hampered, among other things, by the >> > > relatively small range of angles that CV joints can handle. >> > > >> > > _______________________________________ >> > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >> > > >> > >> > _______________________________________ >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >> > >> > > _______________________________________ > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >