I've started going through the troubleshooting as advised in the earlier posts.
Fuse is good, switches swapped over and work in opposite circuit.
Started removing dash to get to power window relay.
I have the lower panel down and bolster. Have the cluster pushed out a bit, but 
cannot get it out far enough to access the relay. 
 
What next?
 
Thanks-
Rob






  


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   1. Re: OT:Obooma. again (Rich Thomas)
   2. Re: Obooma (Chuck Landenberger)
   3. Re: PHX CL 300TD Not Bad, right?/turbo? (Allan Streib)
   4. Re: Midnight on the dash 24/7 (Chuck Landenberger)
   5. Re: PHX CL 300TD Not Bad, right?/RUST!   We don't need no
      stinkin' rust! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
   6. Re: Carfax, Anyone? (Mitch Haley)
   7. Re: Carfax, Anyone? (LWB250)
   8. Re: OT:Obooma. again (Wonko the Sane)
   9. Re: Midnight on the dash 24/7 (Wonko the Sane)
  10. Brake issues, need help (Alex Chamberlain)
  11. Re: Carfax, Anyone? (Alex Chamberlain)
  12. Re: Carfax, Anyone? (Alex Chamberlain)
  13. Re: Brake issues, need help (Peter Frederick)
  14. Re: Carfax, Anyone? (LWB250)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:29:15 -0400
From: Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again
To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Good answer but not to the questions posed.

--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> The press has a HUGE love affair with McCain because he chats them up on
his
> campaign  bus....
>
> On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Rich Thomas <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Why do you think the press did not report aspects of his trip that
would
>> not be promotional, e.g., that before his Berlin speech there was a
rock
>> concert, free beer/food, etc. that contributed *significantly* to
>> drawing the huge crowd?
>>
>> And why is the mainstream press not reporting the John Edwards story,
>> when the McCain rumors of an affair with a lobbyist got front page
play
>> in the NYT?
>>
>> --R
>>
>> andrew strasfogel wrote:
>>     
>>> Learning is not automatic - it depends on the intelligence and
>>>       
>> willingness
>>     
>>> to learn of the student.  I wish the press had focussed more on
what the
>>> world leaders discussed with Obama and their impressions of him. 
I
>>>       
>> thought
>>     
>>> he handled himself brilliantly and struck just the right balance,
given
>>>       
>> the
>>     
>>> spotlight that was on him constantly.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Scott Ritchey
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>       
>> wrote:
>>     
>>>       
>>>> Analyzing all this, I come to the following conclusions:
>>>>
>>>> 1.  Obama met some troops at some places but not other troops
at other
>>>> places.  But this is always the case.
>>>> 2.  CPT Porter reported what he initially believed to be true
but some
>>>> hearsay and some personal opinion were likely involved.
>>>> 3.  CPT Porter got "spoken to" after his first email
and backpedaled.
>>>>
>>>> So was this tour just a big photo op or was significant
learning taking
>>>> place?  As a photo op, it was brilliant IMO.  Too soon to know
about any
>>>> learning. I predict that each reader will predictably
interpret the
>>>>         
>> facts
>>     
>>>> based on his/her going-in prejudice.  But I do not believe
that CPT
>>>>         
>> Porter
>>     
>>>> simply lied.
>>>>
>>>> Scott Ritchey
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
>>>>         
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>     
>>>> On Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:15
>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Obooma. again
>>>>
>>>> The Captain Email about Obama not visiting the troops was
false.....
>>>>
>>>> Here's the link to Snopes......
>>>> http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/afghanistan.asp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Take care,
>>>>
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:37:58 -0700
From: Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Obooma
To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Roger,

I went to the Snopes.com or Urban Legend website and found that it is  
nothing more than a really newsy version of Wikipedia, where  
individuals can post a story and be given some sort of credibility.   
It appears there is NO verification done by Snopes to determine the  
authenticity of what they allow to be posted.

So what was posted about Obama's trip may have some truth in it in  
the "eyes of the poster" and the counter story may also have
"some"  
truth.  We, the readers, are left with NO authentication and are  
subjected to drawing conclusions whatever way we wish and use Snopes  
as our "pseudo-authority"...

I do believe that the Captain that originally posted, did apologize  
and "may" have his hands slapped (do they do that in the Army?).  His
 
action may have been in order to save his career.  Unfortunately, we  
will NEVER know!

As for Snopes, I could find no names of individuals or email  
addresses of who the Moderators are, tho they did note there are some  
who watch out for "naughty" words...

Not bragging, but I am the MBCA Forum Administrator and have a great  
group of Moderators who on a daily/regular basis keep the MBCA Forum  
in line and on target.  All Moderators are accessible via Private  
Mail on the Forum, as am I.   If you haven't tried it - check it out  
at   http://mbca.cartama.net/index.php     Click on Register on the  
left side of the screen and I know you can take care of the rest....

Questions?  let me know at [EMAIL PROTECTED]     If you didn't already  
know that....  I will answer you!

Take care and be safe,

Chuck Landenbergerr
National Director at Large and Forum Administrator
Phoenix AZ




On Jul 27, 2008, at 6:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> ..I would have thought that Roger would check up on this sort of  
>> thing
>> before posting...
>>
> Why bother when someone else is always ready hovering over the  
> keyboard?
>
> But aside from that, I read the whole Snopes story on this and I  
> thought
> their thoughts were vague and not really persuasive. And who,  
> exactly, runs Snopes
> through Snopes, anyway?
>
> And where was it that Obama was shown shooting baskets just last week?
>
> RLE
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:41:12 -0400
From: Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] PHX CL 300TD Not Bad, right?/turbo?
To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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"andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I need to find a hobbyist who is into body work...

the problem is that the rust you see is only about 10% of it.

Allan

-- 
1983 300D



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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:44:52 -0700
From: Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Midnight on the dash 24/7
To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed

Andrew,

I believe it's called "the rheostat"........   They do go bad... 
Try  
wiggling it with some push to the back and forth rotational turn  
(very slowly) and you might be lucky enough to find "the sweet  
spot" ....

Otherwise, I believe it's pulling the instrument cluster and  
replacing it.....

Other wiser minds may prevail....

take care,

Chuck
On Jul 27, 2008, at 7:24 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

> I drove my new 1983 300TD at night for the first time.  The dash  
> lights are
> ALL pitch black - gauges, ACC, buttons, fascia switches - you name  
> it.  Only
> the radio lights up.   Could I have more than one problem?  Is there a
> "mother bulb" for the switches that are illuminated by fiber
optics  
> cables?
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:48:55 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] PHX CL 300TD Not Bad,        right?/RUST!   We don't need
        no stinkin' rust!
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

 
In a message dated 7/27/2008 12:45:16 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Cheap at  a THIRD the price when you could get a great well-maintained
turbodiesel  wagon for under $2k...



Eeeooow, but rust!  We are talking a rust free car from the Biltmore  section 
(TaDaaa) of Phoenix--what is it really worth to NOT have to do body  patching!



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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:11:59 -0400
From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carfax, Anyone?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

LWB250 wrote:
> If anyone has an active Carfax account, would you mind checking this VIN:
> 
> 2FAFP74W52X139693

It's a Canadian Crown Vic with greasy detailer crap (and a modular 4.6L V8)

under the hood. Do I win a prize?



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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:26:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carfax, Anyone?
To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Smartass.

Just checking for the fun of it.

No more greasy puffy shirt detailing stuff.  The Mercedes Martha Stewart has
started in on it.  It got a complete Mobil 1 treatment along with new filters
on Saturday along with addressing a couple of outstanding TSBs that needed
attention.

Today it got Leatherique'ed and Prestine Cleaned along with a good wash.

Tomorrow the carpets get cleaned and it gets the clay bar treatment before a
coat (or two) of 3M Show Car Wax.

Later in the week the crappy clamp style battery terminals will get replaced
with crimp/solder types.

Wednesday the factory premium audio head unit arrives, ready to be installed in
the dash with the PIE iPod2 interface.  I may also have a factory subwoofer from
a Grand Marquis ready to go by then, too.

Next weekend it will get an ATF drain and refill with Mobil 1 synthetic ATF and
a new filter.  Maybe Mobil 1 diff oil, too. 

I'm sure I'm missing something, but it's a start.

Dan


--- On Sun, 7/27/08, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carfax, Anyone?
> It's a Canadian Crown Vic with greasy detailer crap
> (and a modular 4.6L V8) 
> under the hood. Do I win a prize?
> 



      



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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:41:54 +0300
From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Obooma. again
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Message-ID:
        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

There is a good bit of stagecraft whenever there is a Presidential campaign
appearance. Well, normally (see below).

When Obama came to Jefferson, it was my "duty" to sit on the stage
right
behind him, front row, because I am a county Dem party official. When I said
I really didn't care to, an advance guy almost fell to his knees begging
that I sit on the stage. Guess all of the Party Big Wigs (even at county
level) must be in the photos.

Sort of glad I agreed, else I'd not have had the opportunity to "press
the
flesh" with our next President, plus engage in a brief conversation. I got
to be in the inner circle rather than just another face in the crowd.

That said, I am sure Obama's every step (and I mean that literally, not
figuratively) during his European Vacation was well scripted in advance, and
no one got into handshaking distance without someone planning it. Even were
it not for the Secret Service aspect of his itinerary, there is no wasted
motion or time once he hits the ground.

Just the way things are, folks. And I've observed it first-hand.

I think that is what I liked most about Biden's appearances in Jefferson.
He
simply walked into the small coffee shop, shook hands and introduced himself
(as if that was necessary), gave a small speech and took questions. No
scripting, no handlers (other than his family), no BS. Just an honest guy
who seemed to love to talk and knew what he was talking about: no notes, no
planted questions, just talking policy from memory. I saw him do this at
least a half dozen times, and he never missed a beat. Very smart guy who
knows his foreign policy.

He'd have made a really good President. Hey, any guy who can meet me twice
then afterwards greet me with "Hello, Don" -- in the middle of an
Iowa
campaign -- has the sort of brain this country needs at the top.

D.




On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:14 AM, andrew strasfogel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> The press has a HUGE love affair with McCain because he chats them up on
> his
> campaign  bus....
>
> On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Rich Thomas <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Why do you think the press did not report aspects of his trip that
would
> > not be promotional, e.g., that before his Berlin speech there was a
rock
> > concert, free beer/food, etc. that contributed *significantly* to
> > drawing the huge crowd?
> >
> > And why is the mainstream press not reporting the John Edwards story,
> > when the McCain rumors of an affair with a lobbyist got front page
play
> > in the NYT?
> >
> > --R
> >
> > andrew strasfogel wrote:
> > > Learning is not automatic - it depends on the intelligence and
> > willingness
> > > to learn of the student.  I wish the press had focussed more on
what
> the
> > > world leaders discussed with Obama and their impressions of him.
 I
> > thought
> > > he handled himself brilliantly and struck just the right
balance, given
> > the
> > > spotlight that was on him constantly.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Scott Ritchey
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> Analyzing all this, I come to the following conclusions:
> > >>
> > >> 1.  Obama met some troops at some places but not other
troops at other
> > >> places.  But this is always the case.
> > >> 2.  CPT Porter reported what he initially believed to be
true but some
> > >> hearsay and some personal opinion were likely involved.
> > >> 3.  CPT Porter got "spoken to" after his first
email and backpedaled.
> > >>
> > >> So was this tour just a big photo op or was significant
learning
> taking
> > >> place?  As a photo op, it was brilliant IMO.  Too soon to
know about
> any
> > >> learning. I predict that each reader will predictably
interpret the
> > facts
> > >> based on his/her going-in prejudice.  But I do not believe
that CPT
> > Porter
> > >> simply lied.
> > >>
> > >> Scott Ritchey
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> On Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger
> > >> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:15
> > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Obooma. again
> > >>
> > >> The Captain Email about Obama not visiting the troops was
false.....
> > >>
> > >> Here's the link to Snopes......
> > >> http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/afghanistan.asp
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Take care,
> > >>
> > >> Chuck
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:44:52 +0300
From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Midnight on the dash 24/7
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Message-ID:
        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I soldered a jumper onto the rheostat on my 240D soon after I purchased it,
and have never looked back. Dash lights ever since.

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:44 AM, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Andrew,
>
> I believe it's called "the rheostat"........   They do go
bad...  Try
> wiggling it with some push to the back and forth rotational turn
> (very slowly) and you might be lucky enough to find "the sweet
> spot" ....
>
> Otherwise, I believe it's pulling the instrument cluster and
> replacing it.....
>
> Other wiser minds may prevail....
>
> take care,
>
> Chuck
>

-- 
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:55:03 -0700
From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ] Brake issues, need help
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <Mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Message-ID:
        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Having a weird issue with the brakes on the POS 300E.

When I drove the car home a few months ago the brakes worked well
enough, although the rears were squealing and the wear indicator was
on, so I planned to change all the pads at least.  The car sat for a
while, while I got distracted by other projects.  Just got around to
changing all the pads and putting new rotors on the rear (the
squealing was a pad that had worn down to the metal).

While I don't bleed brakes every day for fun, I have done it
successfully before and I think I know how to do it.  I recruited
SWMBO to pump the pedal while I opened and closed the screws.  Started
with the right rear and it seemed to go OK; we got new fluid there
after about a dozen pumps.  The left rear was next.  But no matter how
many times we went through the up/down open/close cycle, I never got
any fluid to speak of out the bleed screw, just a lot of sputtering
air and ocassionally a few droplets of old fluid.  The master cylinder
level didn't go down at all while working on that corner of the car,
either.

I can't figure out what could be causing these symptoms. Bad bleeder
screw letting air back in when the pedal was released?  Maybe, but
what little fluid there was in my drain tubing was moving along
(pretty slowly though) as we pumped the pedal, with no sign that it
was getting sucked backwards.

Blockage of some kind in the line?  Then I'd think the pedal would get
harder as it was pumped since the fluid in the master cylinder had
nowhere to go.

Leaky line somewhere under the car?  Then wouldn't fluid find its way
from the master cylinder to the leak and eventually be seen on the
driveway underneath?

Maybe I just need to do it longer with a one-man bleeder?  Googling
"Brake bleeding problems" I find a few message-board discussions that
suggest that a lot of cars need more than the usual brake-pumping
method after replacing pads, and that a pressure system may be the
cure.  Anyone have any experience with one of these?
http://www.drivewerks.com/catalog/shopcart/TOOL/POR_TOOL_BLEEDR_pg8.htm#20

Of course this is just the wrong time, too.  I really need to get this
thing running, or I will be sleeping in it like Clay.  SWMBO's Subaru
is in the shop for new head gaskets, and I told her I was fixing up
the POS 300E as her spare car; but the spare car isn't much use when
it goes but doesn't stop.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo, '86 300E, et al.



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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:57:40 -0700
From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carfax, Anyone?
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Message-ID:
        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252

On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 6:30 PM, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If anyone has an active Carfax account, would you mind checking this VIN:
>
> 2FAFP74W52X139693
>

A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied
to CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 5 billion vehicle history events and
found 8 record(s)  for this 2002 FORD CROWN VICTORIA LX/SPORT
(2FAFP74W52X139693).
        

Owner One Vehicle History
Purchased:      2002
Type:   Personal
Where:  Indiana
Est. miles/year:        ---
Est. length owned:      3/29/02 - 3/8/03
(11 months)

        
Date:   Mileage:        Source:         Comments:
01/15/2002              NICB    Vehicle manufactured
and shipped to original dealer
03/29/2002      110     Indiana
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Indianapolis, IN
Title #02231072025      Title issued or updated
First owner reported
Registered as
personal vehicle

Owner Two Vehicle History
Purchased:      2003
Where:  Indiana
Est. miles/year:        ---
Est. length owned:      3/8/03 - 1/19/06
(2 yrs. 10 mo.)

        
Date:   Mileage:        Source:         Comments:
03/08/2003              Indiana
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Indianapolis, IN
Title #03240035003      Title issued or updated
New owner reported
01/19/2006      45,025          Dealer Inventory
Plainfield, IN          Vehicle offered for sale
04/04/2006              Dealer Inventory        Vehicle offered for sale

Owner Three Vehicle History
Purchased:      2006
Where:  Indiana
Est. miles/year:        ---
Est. length owned:      4/25/06 - present
(2 yrs. 3 mo.)

        
Date:   Mileage:        Source:         Comments:
04/25/2006      45,063          Indiana
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Plainfield, IN
Title #06115550001      Title issued or updated
New owner reported
Loan or lien reported
05/13/2006              Indiana
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Plainfield, IN
Title #06115588026      Title issued or updated
08/23/2006      49,664          Indiana
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Brownsburg, IN
Title #06466163029      Dealer took title of this vehicle
while it was in inventory
NOT ACTUAL MILEAGE TITLE ISSUED

CARFAX Advisor?
A NAM title is issued when the owner discloses to a DMV mileage fraud,
a broken odometer or that the actual mileage of this vehicle is
unknown.

Mileage reported after this reading is potentially unreliable.



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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:00:26 -0700
From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carfax, Anyone?
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On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 6:30 PM, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If anyone has an active Carfax account, would you mind checking this VIN:
>
> 2FAFP74W52X139693
>

What in God's name is a Crown Victoria "Sport"?  I know there is,
or
used to be, a way to get most of the specs of the police version by
ordering individual options, like the upgraded trans cooler, stiffer
suspension, etc., but "Sport"?

Alex



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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:09:34 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake issues, need help
To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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The rear reservoir has run dry.  You must fill the front one (the only one you
can see through the filler cap) completely full to almost overflowing to get
fluid to fill the rear one (I've done this a couple times now).  Rather
difficult to actually see the rear chamber on a W124.

Get it full and repeat the bleed sequence, will work find.  I personally use a
Mitivac hand pump with the nice little trap bottle supplied in the
"big" kit -- it always has bubbles in the fluid from the fitting, but
you can easily see when it is clean and if you stop once in a while and refill
the reservoir, it's a one man job.  I tend to pen the bleeder when pushing
the pistons back when changing pads if I intend to change the fluid, too -- no
need to push bad fluid up the lines, after all.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
>From: Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Jul 27, 2008 10:55 PM
>To: Mercedes Discussion List <Mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>Subject: [MBZ] Brake issues, need help
>
>Having a weird issue with the brakes on the POS 300E.
>
>When I drove the car home a few months ago the brakes worked well
>enough, although the rears were squealing and the wear indicator was
>on, so I planned to change all the pads at least.  The car sat for a
>while, while I got distracted by other projects.  Just got around to
>changing all the pads and putting new rotors on the rear (the
>squealing was a pad that had worn down to the metal).
>
>While I don't bleed brakes every day for fun, I have done it
>successfully before and I think I know how to do it.  I recruited
>SWMBO to pump the pedal while I opened and closed the screws.  Started
>with the right rear and it seemed to go OK; we got new fluid there
>after about a dozen pumps.  The left rear was next.  But no matter how
>many times we went through the up/down open/close cycle, I never got
>any fluid to speak of out the bleed screw, just a lot of sputtering
>air and ocassionally a few droplets of old fluid.  The master cylinder
>level didn't go down at all while working on that corner of the car,
>either.
>
>I can't figure out what could be causing these symptoms. Bad bleeder
>screw letting air back in when the pedal was released?  Maybe, but
>what little fluid there was in my drain tubing was moving along
>(pretty slowly though) as we pumped the pedal, with no sign that it
>was getting sucked backwards.
>
>Blockage of some kind in the line?  Then I'd think the pedal would get
>harder as it was pumped since the fluid in the master cylinder had
>nowhere to go.
>
>Leaky line somewhere under the car?  Then wouldn't fluid find its way
>from the master cylinder to the leak and eventually be seen on the
>driveway underneath?
>
>Maybe I just need to do it longer with a one-man bleeder?  Googling
>"Brake bleeding problems" I find a few message-board discussions
that
>suggest that a lot of cars need more than the usual brake-pumping
>method after replacing pads, and that a pressure system may be the
>cure.  Anyone have any experience with one of these?
>http://www.drivewerks.com/catalog/shopcart/TOOL/POR_TOOL_BLEEDR_pg8.htm#20
>
>Of course this is just the wrong time, too.  I really need to get this
>thing running, or I will be sleeping in it like Clay.  SWMBO's Subaru
>is in the shop for new head gaskets, and I told her I was fixing up
>the POS 300E as her spare car; but the spare car isn't much use when
>it goes but doesn't stop.
>
>Alex Chamberlain
>'87 300D Turbo, '86 300E, et al.
>
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:15:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carfax, Anyone?
To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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The "LX Sport" is the top end trim and accessory package.  It's
dechromed but has all the goodies like air suspension, factory alloy wheels,
leather, automatic climate control, premium sound system, etc.  It's as
close to the P71 (police interceptor) you can get without actually buying one.

As for the mileage issue with the title, we knew about this as it was part of a
lien action the dealer took against the previous owner.  The mileage is actual.

Dan


--- On Mon, 7/28/08, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carfax, Anyone?
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mercedes Discussion List"
<mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 12:00 AM
> On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 6:30 PM, LWB250
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If anyone has an active Carfax account, would you mind
> checking this VIN:
> >
> > 2FAFP74W52X139693
> >
> 
> What in God's name is a Crown Victoria
> "Sport"?  I know there is, or
> used to be, a way to get most of the specs of the police
> version by
> ordering individual options, like the upgraded trans
> cooler, stiffer
> suspension, etc., but "Sport"?
> 
> Alex
> 
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