Gee whiz how much more life do you get out of an auto trans in an American
vehicle? Cripes I'm tickled to have gotten 220k...
'Sides I've had Lucas in it before and it didn't hurt anything. I'm gonna try
it again, maybe in a couple weeks I'll let the thing drain (pull a cooler line)
and refill with M1. I'm sure thats not a full drain but the fluid in there is
still pretty new.
-Curt
--- On Mon, 10/20/08, ernest breakfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: ernest breakfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 2:31 PM
hi Curt!
not sure which trans is in that rig, but if it's one of the ChryCo
trannys, they don't necessarily have the best reputation for longevity,
and you may be at the end of its natural life.
that said, i've had symptoms like what you describe in one of our
vehicles, and in 2 cases it's been found to be issues with sensors; one
was the Vehicle Speed Sensor in the trans itself, and the other was the
Throttle Position Sensor. changing those out may be cheap enough to try
that i'd try that before i'd commit to chancing using any additives in
it. (i'd also try putting some better ATF like M1 or RedLine in it
before i tried any additives,...)
cheers!
e
Curt Raymond wrote:
Well back around Christmas Angie had to drive home (about 10 miles) in first
gear as the trans wouldn't shift up at all.
I drained some out and put in the Lucas, I figured I had nothing to lose at
that point. I ran it around the neighborhood some (still in first) and put it
to bed. On Christmas eve (the following day) I ran it around some more and
found that if I manually shifted into neutral it would then shift up although
sometimes there was a delay. After more driving (my 190D was getting a new
starter) it would shift up and down and hardly ever need the neutral trick. I
had the fluid and filter changed with Mobil 1 and it got even better. Now its
been oh maybe 15,000 miles and its back.
Remember this is a Dodge Dakota v8 with 220,000 miles on the original trans
(well, probably original, I bought it with 58,000) and its been worked hard.
I *think* its a sticky valve, the Lucas appears to be ATF with extra detergents
and some thickener. I only used about half the bottle (the bottle is a quart)
last time. Figure I'll do the same now, again I've got nothing to lose. I am
NOT planning on rebuilding the trans in this truck, that'd be dumb, its got
220,000 miles, it needs a heatercore, radiator, exhaust, and has some pretty
nasty rust plus some of the paint has failed so rust there is just a matter of
time. The bumper for instance is just chrome plating foil at this point, theres
very little metal left. Oh I forgot the transfer case which is also pretty much
shot... Its been a great truck but its at the end of its useful life.
-Curt
--- On Sun, 10/19/08, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 9:33 PM
DO NOT use the Lucas. My '82 300CD's previous owner did that because
they (and it was "confirmed" by the MB stealership) thought that the
trans was in need of a rebuild. The trans would slip out of first and
second gears from a stop at anything more than light-moderate throttle.
Once it was rolling about 10-15mph, it would take a full throttle run
without any problems.
The first thing I did was change the fluid and filter. I used Mobil 1
ATF and have NEVER regretted the choice. Less than 1,000mi after the
change I noticed that I could use heavy throttle, and soon thereafter I
could hit full throttle from a stop. This coupe will bark the tires on
the 1-2 shift! The trans still works like it should over 20,000 mi later.
Luther
Curt Raymond wrote:
Just returned from our second yearly "week at camp". Dad and I
own 85 acres in northern Maine with a little 1 room camp on it. Twice a year
my
folks and my wife and I manage to not kill each other living in one room for a
week. This trip was the first with the new dog and he worked out just fine.
Gas in northern Maine is usually $.10-.20 more expensive than in the
Portland area but interestingly over the course of the week prices fell so
much
that by the time we left the price of gas was lower than when we left
Portland... At one stop on the way up gas fell $0.10 during lunch. Returning
home I see diesel fell $0.30 while we were away. I was going to refuel the 190D
before we left, now I'm glad I didn't...
Anyway my Dodge is definately on the way out, the trans is playing the
sticky valve game again where it won't upshift. Did it a couple times on the
way up, a couple times while we were there and now seems to have stopped. I
definately smelled trans fluid a couple times too. I'm going to put some of
the Lucas additive in again and start looking harder for a new truck. There
seems to be a large crop of full size pickups from 2002ish on sale in the $5000
range which should fit the bill fine. Angie will be driving a car from now on so
the pickup will be the trash/snowmobile (sometimes they're the same
thing)/firewood/scrap haulin mostly weekend mobile and definately doesn't
need to be new. Wish I could justify a diesel but no way...
-Curt
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