BZZZZZZT!
Clessie Cummins was as American as Apple Pie, and the company he started is
in Indiana, as it has always been. Excerpt from
cummins.com: "Headquartered in Columbus, Indiana, (USA) Cummins serves
customers in more than 160 countries and territories through its network of
550 Company-owned and independent distributor locations...."
Cummins first raced a Diesel at Indy in the 20s. Check it out
A good book is "My days with the Diesel" by Clessie Cummins.
They may make pieces abroad, and they most likely make whole engines
abroad, but Cummins is an American company.
Buy a John Deere, and you may get an engine made in France, Waterloo, IA or
Japan. In '74 my Dad bought a Deere assembled in Mannheim, with a french
engine, a British (yuk) injection system and US tires.
From what I understand, MB trucks outside the US use MB "OM" series
engines. MBUSA trucks (sterling and Freightshaker) probably have options
for any of the US-3 as well as some MB "OM" series engines for
Freightliners. I know some Freightshakers have "powered by Mercedes Benz"
on some of the hoods. To my knowledge, all the OM engines are made by
Mercedes Benz, probably in Europe, traditionally in Germany. They have
been reluctant to let engine production occur outside of Germany, but maybe
that changed with the acquisition of Freightliner. The L1113, L1116 and
so forth MB medium duties used OM352 and other OM engines made in
Germany. I know of an experimental MB "OM" truck engine that was put in
service in a US chassis in 1973 and ran a million+ miles and was good as
new when the chassis was retired. The engine was experimental for the US
long haul market, but was a production v-8. They wanted to see how it
stood up to the long haul market.
I think there is some misunderstanding about what market segment the
original question was addressing. I am not sure either. Sprinter is one
thing, the L series trucks from Brazil in the 80s is another, and the US
(sterling/Freightshaker) is another, and the MB trucks for the rest of the
world is another.
Luther, are you saying MB "OM" series engines are being manufactured by
Detroit Diesel under contract/license? Could be, but it is news to
me. Makes sense though, for the number of freightshakers they sell. Which
OM numbers are made in the US?
Anyone know the location of the plant the Sprinters are made in?
At 06:37 PM 9/21/2005, you wrote:
Lets see, Cummings is a English corporation, that would be those small
islands off the coast of France, and the Cummings engines in the Dodge
stuff is made by frogs in France. Check out the plate on the side of the
engine. Most of the big castings used in the large engines are cast in
Spain, loose emission rules.
Interesting old news, Cummings ran a diesel powered car in a front engine
car at Indy. I think this was back in the 60´s and they layed the engine
on it´s side. Car actually did real well in that one race.
D&T
On 9/21/05, Fmiser <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
rumor has it that Kevin wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:58:46PM -0500, Luther Gulseth wrote:
> > HELL NO. The damn MB engines are made by Detroit. Cummins makes a MUCH
> > better product. MB makes a (well, this is questionable) kick ass car
> > engine, but that's what's made in the Mother Land.
>
> Does anyone know how the MB engines in the commercial trucks have been
> fairing? I'm curious if they hold their own to what else is out there,
> or if they're just rebadged detroits in disguise (for whatever that's
worth).
>From what I've heard, the engines for the class 7 and class 8 trucks are
quite good - but they are not made by one of the "US 3" (Cummins,
Caterpiller, Detroit) and so it's been a hard sell.
I've only talked to a couple folks who have driven them. They had no
complaints.
They fellows I've talked to that have the Sprinters sure like the MB
engine in those!
Philip
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