John, That pretty much mimics my experience. With relays on the H4 bulbs, the bulb-out module is unhappy and triggers the dash idiot light. This can be corrected by cutting certain traces on the bulb-out module, to eliminate it monitoring the headlight bulbs. It never did monitor the fog lights (don't ask me why). I insist on having the module function for the rest of the bulbs in the car, though, unlike some people who simply disconnect the dash light. I need to know when I have a brake light, marker light, or turn signal that's out *before* I get pulled over and ticketed for it! ;-)
I'm also looking for a Gen2 AMG bumper for my diesel, which can accept either fog or driving lights. Haven't found one used yet. They're available new but the cost is more than I can stomach. The E500 already has bumper mounted fogs, and I have those tied in with the city lights. I use these as DRL's, which works great and looks pretty sharp too. :-) -Dave M. > ------------------------------ > Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:11:48 -0700 > From: John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [MBZ] 500e lights > > > Spent a few hours over the weekend (well many hours) swapping out the > euro lights in the 90 wagon for a set of new 500E lights that I had > purchased, these are made by Hella and have driving beams versus fog > lamps in the inner side. Managed to mangle the driver side wiper > brass shaft fairly well trying to get it off the old light assembly, > rusty bolts, but I think it will survive. I had earlier in the week > visited my local wrecker and picked up various connectors, a dual > pole 16A bosch relay from a 190e, and a dual gang fuse block from a > 300SDL. Ran 10 gauge to the fuse block, then 16 gauge (later I > changed my mind and reran 14 gauge, might as well do everything > twice) to the relay and the fog/driving beam pin. For the relay 85/86 > pins I ran from the headlight ground & headlight high beam > connections. Got out a torch and soldered everything together, the > only non-benz parts are the 30A fuse on the 10g by the battery > positive pole, tie wraps and the anti scuff hose. > > Now on high beam I get 210w of lighting, which is sufficient to light > up the backside of the moon. > > I brought the fog light connectors out to separate connector blocks, > interesting enough the lack of both fog lamps does not trigger the > bulb out indicator. I cross checked by pulling signal/break/backup > lamps and the bulb out indicator logic worked as expected. Perhaps it > won't trigger if both bulbs on a circuit are burned out? > > What was interesting was the usage of I think 18 g wire for most of > the eom lighting, now I understand the comments about barely adequate > wiring, some literature I read talked about running 12G but in > checking I found that way too big to start wanting to stuff 6 wires > in a 6 pin connector block. Although I'm only running 50W h3 bulbs I > may migrate to 100w h3 bulbs, but I don't see the need to run > technically illegal bulbs on the road at the moment. > > Sniff, miss the fogs for lighting up ditchs, and turns with their > wide degree of illumination, I hunted a bit for say an AMG front > bumper but that won't pass the wife test couldn't find one anyway and > it would be missing the integrated fog lamps (extra cost I'm sure), > so perhaps I"ll ask for a set of hella micro de fog lamps for > christmas and figure out where to mount those. > > > On top of all this the w123 could be heard whimpering for say a set > of hella micro de xenon driving lamps... Maybe some relays and high > wattage bulbs are in order for it since it's sporting an ancient set > of sand blasted euro lamps which provide the weakest set of lighting > of the three. > > John > 1983 300TDt 358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) > 1990 300TDt 151k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)