No, not too bad. I have not had many over the years and they had no record of me at the moment so they let me off for about half price. I think it was close to $100. I showed photos of the dash in my car that has not metric references and said I always assume that 40 mph is about 60 kph. I was just a bit over that so they got me for something like 74 kph in a 60 kph area. Photo radar in front of a school but it was about 6 PM and as such no little kiddies about. Just another means of taxing us if we are not careful.
Randy -----Original Message----- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 4:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] speedos (was: Re: ISO a fix for lousy fuel economy inaW123turbodiesel - with an incentive) So, the test didn't help defense? 'Pity. 'Hope it wasn't too bad. ;<))))) Wilton ----- Original Message ----- From: "R A Bennell" <b...@mts.net> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] speedos (was: Re: ISO a fix for lousy fuel economy in aW123turbodiesel - with an incentive) >I had my 300D tested due to a speeding ticket issue and it was very >accurate even though old. > > Randy > > -----Original Message----- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of ernest breakfield > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 2:15 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: [MBZ] speedos (was: Re: ISO a fix for lousy fuel economy in a > W123turbodiesel - with an incentive) > > > heh,... i'm not sure i deserve that kind of credit; they just happen to > be local to me. > > (i once had my J**p roller-tested there after a tire size change > since it's where the local LEOs go; it was surprising to me how while > the odo was fairly accurate the speedo was only accurate at one speed; > indicated high below that, and low above,... it doesn't seem that making > a speedo accurate is a mfr's major concern!) > > > cheers! > e > > > On 04/Jun/10 13:02, Rolf wrote: >> Someone with more active brain cells than me. I do believe that is the >> place. >> >> -Rolf >> >> On 06/04/2010 12:56 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: >>> Rolf, >>> >>> would you by any chance be referring to Palo Alto Speedometer? >>> >>> >>> cheers! >>> e >>> >>> >>> On 04/Jun/10 06:08, Rolf wrote: >>>> There is a reputable shop in Cali that adverts in the back of the >>>> star IIRC. They specialize in VDO's (they all have the same issue). >>>> A few others on the boards have mentioned it as well. Name escapes >>>> me. I think its about $150 to have it refurbed, I would go that >>>> route with a warranty over replacing it with questionable used parts >>>> (says the guy whos gone through 3 85 speedos and is about to just >>>> give up on the junkyard and fork over the moola). If you tear the >>>> speedo apart the mechanism is, what I would consider to be, fairly >>>> laughable. Is a wheel in a cup that spins arounds (either the cup or >>>> the wheel is drven cant remember). I consistently found that the >>>> odo, if working tends to be correct and the speedo is off (same as >>>> your predicament). Right now I have a non working odo and a bouncing >>>> but accurate speedo. >>>> >>>> Once I get around to getting the VNT installed in my car and doing >>>> my own electronic vane control I plan on adding in support for >>>> electronic speedos ala w126/201/124 etc. They have their own issues >>>> but are easy enough to find. >>>> >>>> -Rolf >>>> >>>> On 06/03/2010 02:56 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: >>>>> CORRECTION: Should have written "OK - what is the takeaway message >>>>> from all >>>>> that learned discussion? Am I doomed to forever have an inaccurate >>>>> speedometer that reads too high (in mph and miles covered), or is >>>>> there hope >>>>> for an affordable fix?" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 2:50 PM, andrew >>>>> strasfogel<astrasfo...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> OK - what is the takeaway message from all that learned? Am I >>>>>> doomed to >>>>>> foreever have ain inaccurate speedometer that reads too high (in >>>>>> mph and >>>>>> miles covered), or is there hope? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV >>>>>> SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, >>>>>> 53310<meade.m.dil...@navy.mil> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sho'enuf, hat tip to Rolf (and Mitch). For a 123.133 the EPC >>>>>>> shows that >>>>>>> the speedo and the diff changed for '85, but no changes to the >>>>>>> transmission speedometer gears. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Max >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com >>>>>>> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rolf >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:51 AM >>>>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] ISO a fix for lousy fuel economy in a W123 >>>>>>> turbodiesel - with an incentive >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know for a fact that the speedo is matched to the rear diff and >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> the transmission alteast in the W123 chassis. Feel free to >>>>>>> research it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Rolf >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 06/03/2010 10:46 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV >>>>>>> SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> I think that the issue is the drive gearing may be the same, but >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> gear which drives the speedometer (in the tail of the tranny) >>>>>>>> varies >>>>>>>> to match the differential. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The EPC can answer this question... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Max >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com >>>>>>>> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rolf >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:38 AM >>>>>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] ISO a fix for lousy fuel economy in a W123 >>>>>>>> turbodiesel - with an incentive >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That is pretty much correct. The speedo is based on the rear >>>>>>>> diff not >>>>>>>> the trans. The automatics are all the same (for the w123) >>>>>>>> gearing and >>>>>>>> all the four speeds end in 1:1 gearing. The manuals differ from >>>>>>>> year >>>>>>>> to year based on engine and reivisions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Rolf >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 06/03/2010 10:35 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jim Cathey wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No, I correct myself. The speedometer is attempting to measure >>>>>>>>>> wheel >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> RPM, but it's tapped at the tranny tailshaft. The 85 tranny is >>>>>>>>>> _expecting_ to have a lower tailshaft RPM for a given road speed, >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> so gears up the speedometer tap to make up for it. >>>>>>>>>> You put that tranny in a car with a shorter rear end, and the >>>>>>>>>> tailshaft RPM is higher than expected, and so is the speedometer >>>>>>>>>> output. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I thought the MBZ way was to have the trannies all alike, and >>>>>>>>> match >>>>>>>>> the speedometer head to the differential gearing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mitch. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list >>>>>>>>> archives >>>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list >>>>>>>> archives >>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list >>>>>>>> archives >>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list >>>>>>> archives >>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
