Loren:

I'll trade you those four Yakima gutter-mount roof rack towers you were 
interested in a while back for one o' them variacs. Will even pick up and drop 
off. I have a 
load of 60+-year-old single-speed tools I'd like to be able to dial down on 
occasion, and have been looking for a Variac. 

Pmail me if you're interested:

theprofil...@dwx.com

Dan
82 300SD, 334k miles,  Des Moines


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   1. Re: '91 350SDL air cond (WILTON)
   2. Re: '91 350SDL air cond (Dieselhead)
   3. OT VARIAC (Dieselhead)
   4. Re: OT VARIAC (E M)
   5. Re: OT VARIAC (Craig McCluskey)
   6. Re: OT VARIAC (Walt Zarnoch)
   7. Re: OT VARIAC (Alex Chamberlain)
   8. Re: OBD scanners for our old and newer MBs (Alex Chamberlain)
   9. Re: (SPAM?) Re:  OT VARIAC (Jim Cathey)
  10. Re: '91 350SDL air cond (Jim Cathey)
  11. Re: '91 350SDL air cond (Alex Chamberlain)
  12. Re: '91 350SDL air cond (Alex Chamberlain)
  13. Re: (SPAM?) Re:  OT VARIAC (archer)
  14. Re: (SPAM?) Re: OT VARIAC (Walt Zarnoch)
  15. Re: (SPAM?) Re:  OT VARIAC (Fmiser)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 22:31:55 -0400


The small black box about 2+" by 1+" between the two firewalls and just to 
left of center?  Says KL1?

Wilton

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>I believe all the originals said KLIMA but I have seen some that don't say 
>KLIMA, but have a K, and I think I have seen at least one that says 
>nothing.
>
> it is on the left side, between the front and rear firewalls.
>
>
>>>I can't remember where [Klima] is.  Can somebody remind me?
>>
>>My notes say that it's next to the fuse box.  Mine all
>>say "D-Klima" on them, as I recall.  Notes say SDL's Klima
>>part number is 001 545 80 05.
>>
>>-- Jim
>>
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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 21:36:56 -0500



That should be it.  I will try to pull mine tomorrow and i think by 
looking at it, I can tell you which terminals to jump.

Anyone else got the magic for jumping the Klima?  Jim?



>The small black box about 2+" by 1+" between the two firewalls and 
>just to left of center?  Says KL1?
>
>Wilton
>
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>To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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>Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL air cond
>
>>I believe all the originals said KLIMA but I have seen some that 
>>don't say KLIMA, but have a K, and I think I have seen at least one 
>>that says nothing.
>>
>>it is on the left side, between the front and rear firewalls.
>>
>>>>I can't remember where [Klima] is.  Can somebody remind me?
>>>
>>>My notes say that it's next to the fuse box.  Mine all
>>>say "D-Klima" on them, as I recall.  Notes say SDL's Klima
>>>part number is 001 545 80 05.
>>>
>>>-- Jim
>>>
>>>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 21:58:32 -0500


Ok, you electronheads out there!  I am cleaning out the garage, and 
needed to move one Variac I have.  I have two. These are panel mount, 
probably 1960-70 vintage, and without reading the tag, I'd guess they 
are 10 or 15 amp capacity.

I was wondering if y'all have any suggestions for using them, since I 
have never used them since I got them.

One is in an electricity trainer that is portable in a plywood 
cabinet that also has a great voltmeter, and ammeter.  I always 
thought it would make a great tool chest/cabinet, but never had the 
heard to destroy the trainer to convert it.   The other is in a 
portable woodencase with a big heavy cord hooked to an outlet and an 
ammeter

It would have worked to make my old monkey wards table saw with the 
universal motor into a variable speed table saw.  But, I don't have 
that screamin demon any more.

  What might a Variac be worth on the fleabay market?



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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 23:50:08 -0400


The only use I know for a Variac is to dial down the power in an old
Marshall guitar amp, like a Plexi.  This was a set up made famous by Eddie
Van Halen on his first few albums.  He would dial back the voltage to 90
volts I think, and it would "brown out" the sound.  Helps preserve the tubes
on the old amps too from what I hear.

If you're selling a variac, you might have the best chance of a buying, and
a good price, if you look to someone how wants one for an old amp setup.

Ed
300E, and an old Marshall many years ago.

On 29 August 2010 22:58, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, you electronheads out there!  I am cleaning out the garage, and needed
> to move one Variac I have.  I have two. These are panel mount, probably
> 1960-70 vintage, and without reading the tag, I'd guess they are 10 or 15
> amp capacity.
>
> I was wondering if y'all have any suggestions for using them, since I have
> never used them since I got them.
>
> One is in an electricity trainer that is portable in a plywood cabinet that
> also has a great voltmeter, and ammeter.  I always thought it would make a
> great tool chest/cabinet, but never had the heard to destroy the trainer to
> convert it.   The other is in a portable woodencase with a big heavy cord
> hooked to an outlet and an ammeter
>
> It would have worked to make my old monkey wards table saw with the
> universal motor into a variable speed table saw.  But, I don't have that
> screamin demon any more.
>
>  What might a Variac be worth on the fleabay market?
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 22:13:53 -0600


On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 21:58:32 -0500 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

>   What might a Variac be worth on the fleabay market?

I looked on eBay and saw many variable autotransformers being offered,
but very few with bids. A lot were "Buy it now", so they would disappear
when they got bids.

The amount you could get for a variac(R) will depend upon its current
rating.


Craig



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 00:22:12 -0400


Post em on a tesla coil webring, a lot of people use them in spark gap or
vac tube ones to dial in the neon sign transformers.

Walt

On Aug 30, 2010 12:14 AM, "Craig McCluskey" <diese...@pisquared.net> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 21:58:32 -0500 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What might a Variac ...
I looked on eBay and saw many variable autotransformers being offered,
but very few with bids. A lot were "Buy it now", so they would disappear
when they got bids.

The amount you could get for a variac(R) will depend upon its current
rating.


Craig


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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 21:48:03 -0700


On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, you electronheads out there! ?I am cleaning out the garage, and needed
> to move one Variac I have. ?I have two. These are panel mount, probably
> 1960-70 vintage, and without reading the tag, I'd guess they are 10 or 15
> amp capacity.
>
> I was wondering if y'all have any suggestions for using them, since I have
> never used them since I got them.
>

They work great for controlling infrared heat units in a plastic
vacuum forming setup where you need to get the temperature exactly
right to soften the plastic but not scorch it.   I've been tossing
around the idea of setting up something like that to reproduce NLA
plastic interior parts, e.g. 107 SLC seat hinge covers.

Alex



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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 21:53:30 -0700


On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 2:32 PM, OK Don <okd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone have recommendations for OBD code scanners? I have a CEL I need to
> diagnose on the ML, the ?Plymouth van should also be OBD enabled.
>
Didn't we just go through this?  For the 'Murrican cars, the ones they
sell at FLAPS are fine.  I like Actron; I think they make one for $150
or so, maybe $100 on sale, that does a little bit of realtime data
(yes it's useful if you want to diagnose an intermittent O2 sensor,
coil pack, etc.) and also gives you the code translation right on the
screen rather than making you look it up in the book (which you might
not have packed on a trip, e.g.)

For the Benz, you need the factory setup ($$$$$) or an aftermarket
setup that speaks the Benz trouble codes, which are a superset of
OBD2. (Only $$$.)  Try for a Snap-On MT-2500 on Fleabay with the
European adapters and cartridges through the ML's year of
manufacture---seems like a lot of pro mechanics are selling those off
now in favor of newer toys.

Alex



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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 22:26:49 -0700


> The only use I know for a Variac is to dial down the power in an old
> Marshall guitar amp, like a Plexi.

They make excellent lamp dimmers, they'll take the filaments
down to glowing red worms and with no buzzing, either.  They're
absolutely essential for bringing up long-dormant tube gear, too.

-- Jim





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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 22:27:29 -0700


> Anyone else got the magic for jumping the Klima?  Jim?

All on this itty-bitty card:

         http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mamerepairs.html 

-- Jim





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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 22:28:58 -0700


On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone else got the magic for jumping the Klima? ?Jim?
>

It is in the 124 FSM, file 83-605.pdf.  According to the "Model Year
1986 Model 126 Supplement" which Steve Nervig helpfully included in
his 126 FSM index, the test procedure for the Klima is exactly the
same between 124 and '86-on 126.  If you follow the whole procedure
you can test all the input and output signals at the pins of the Klima
socket (and, therefore, of course, deduce, if necessary, that it is
faulty, if all the inputs and outputs are correct but your compressor
still isn't turning on when it should).  Along the way you get to test
the A/C pressure switches, the fan switch, and the compressor speed
sensor, if I recall correctly.

I've emailed the file directly to Wilton.

Alex



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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 22:34:49 -0700


On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Jim Cathey <j...@windwireless.net> wrote:
>> Anyone else got the magic for jumping the Klima? ?Jim?
>
> All on this itty-bitty card:
>
> ? ? ? ? http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mamerepairs.html 
>

Whoops, Jim's way ahead of me.  Very neat work there, Dr. Cathey.  A
bit easier to follow than the multi-page flowcharts in the FSM.

Alex



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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 01:53:13 -0400



----- Original Message ----- 



>> The only use I know for a Variac is to dial down the power in an old
>> Marshall guitar amp, like a Plexi.
>
> They make excellent lamp dimmers, they'll take the filaments
> down to glowing red worms and with no buzzing, either.  They're
> absolutely essential for bringing up long-dormant tube gear, too.
> -- Jim
 _______________________________________
What's the functional difference between a 110 vac 15 amp variac and a 110 
vac 15 amp light dimmer switch which costs about $10?
Gerry 




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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 02:32:03 -0400


Most dimmers chop the ac waveform up, usualy by dropping the voltage to zero
x ms after a zero crossing on the line.

This means that all you get is a very choppy signal, kinda like stomping on
the brakes till you're at a halt then accelerating back up to the set point,
and repeting. In this manner, it attenuates the total voltage, but destroys
the underlying waveform.

A variac is a variable autotransformer that lowers(or raises on some) the
actual voltage of the line, while keeping the rest of the waveform
untouched. It's like slowly letting off the pedal to drop speed, then
setting cruise control.

Walt, who should be sleeping by now...

On Aug 30, 2010 2:17 AM, "archer" <arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote:


----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Cathey" <j...@windwireless.net>





>> The only use I know for a Variac is to dial down the power in an old
>> Marshall guitar amp, l...
What's the functional difference between a 110 vac 15 amp variac and a 110
vac 15 amp light dimmer switch which costs about $10?
Gerry


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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 01:35:23 -0500


> > They make excellent lamp dimmers, they'll take the filaments
> > down to glowing red worms and with no buzzing, either.
> > They're absolutely essential for bringing up long-dormant
> > tube gear, too.
> > -- Jim

> archer wrote:
>
> What's the functional difference between a 110 vac 15 amp
> variac and a 110 vac 15 amp light dimmer switch which costs
> about $10? Gerry 

A Variac is a variable transformer, so the output waveform is
identical to the input, just "smaller".

A dimmer (SCR or Triac) doesn't change the voltage, just the
"duty cycle".  It turns on and off fast enough that it can be on
for only a fraction of the 1/120 of a second each "wave" of the
60 Hz AC power line.

Confused?

--  Philip



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