There are a couple of community colleges around here that offer auto body
classes too.  My personal experiences with auto body repairs, even the small
ones that I started off feeling quit confident with, always ended in
frustration  I have a lot of admiration for people who have the skill to
bring back cars to how they left the line, or often, to a higher standard.
My skills are limited to a stone chip touch up kit, and even that often
results in some pretty colourful language from me.

I have a friend who is great with a TIG welder.  As he has said, not always
so humbly, he can weld to the two sharp edges of a couple of razor blades
together, and you can hardly see the seam.  He's exaggerating, but not by a
whole lot!  He's my hero.

Ed
300E

On 19 December 2010 17:27, Fred Moir <fred.s...@verizon.net> wrote:

> Jaime K, ED, et al.
> Jaime, please don't leave, you have experience and resources most of us do
> not. many of us are old farts and, as any one will tell you, curmudgeons are
> cranky and opinionated.
> I for one will try to do better at listening as I have the selective
> hearing of a long married man.
> In case no one has not said thank you for all of your efforts, let me say
> "Thank You".
> The vocal minority are the ones causing most of the angst. Me especially.
> As for maintenance and restoration, I going to take a bodywork class in
> January. I was looking for a welding class and found a auto-body repair
> class that includes it.
>
> Fred Moir
> Lynn MA
> Diesel preferred
>
>
>
> On 12/19/2010 3:30 PM, E M wrote:
>
>> I would welcome more posts on restoration, and preservation.  I do feel
>> there are a number of posts on repairs, but I'd like to see more on
>> maintance, and as I said, preservation and restoration of body and
>> interiors, besides mechanical restorations.
>>
>> I have no personal interest in doing body restoration work, but I'd like
>> to
>> be better informed about the "right" way to do it on certain models, so I
>> can better instruct those I'm paying as to how I'd like things done.
>>
>> As a starting point, one of the front jacking points on my W124 is showing
>> some rust.  I can't really tell is this was from prior collision work not
>> done up to Mercedes standards, or blocked water flow passages in the past
>> that have caused water to settle.  I did notice the rubber spout under the
>> side in questions is missing.
>>
>> Ed
>> 300E
>>
>> On 19 December 2010 15:08, Jaime Kopchinski<jaime...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Yes, I did have some disagreements with Dr. Booth.  But I recall they
>>> were about fundamentals of engine design and operation, not about
>>> anything specific on a car.  I did have some issues with the idea that
>>> anything the dokor said was gold, never to be questioned.  But he did
>>> alot of good things for all of us, and spread alot of good
>>> information... but he wasn't right about everything, and even a
>>> suggestion that he might be wrong caused problems.
>>>
>>> I was ahead of my time, and short on resources, to make dieseltech
>>> (and any real serious projects of my own) work.
>>>
>>> I've been on these lists for a long time... 10-12 years?  I bought my
>>> first mercedes in 1998, a year after being able to legally drive.  I
>>> grew up in a W123 and learned to drive in a W126.  I'm in my 30s now.
>>> I'm an engineer and I work in the automotive industry, as some of you
>>> may know.  (Which is why I took the attack on the engineers who design
>>> these cars personally)
>>>
>>> I've been working on many Mercedes project cars over the years and
>>> most of them I've never mentioned here.  I feel that there is no
>>> interest in any real restoration or preservation work.  The posts I do
>>> make are largely ignored.  This isn't the fault of the list, its my
>>> fault for not finding a more suitable audience.
>>>
>>> I'm a big believer that original is best.  Something Dr. Booth and I
>>> had in common.  I enjoy these cars because they bring me and my
>>> passengers an experience of what things were like when they were new
>>> 20-30+ years ago.  I take pride in making them operate as originally
>>> intended, design flaws and all.  As I get older, I feel stronger and
>>> stronger about this.  The projects I take on are usually nice cars
>>> that have been neglected.  I bring them back to reliable daily
>>> service, and sell them off (rarely for profit, always because I enjoy
>>> doing it).  I'm working on my third one this year right now and
>>> usually own 4-5 cars at a time.
>>>
>>> I'll be unsubscribing here shortly, but I wanted to set things
>>> straight before leaving.  Whats written above is how I feel.  You
>>> might not agree, and you're entitled to that opinion.
>>>
>>> As I said before, I'm pretty shocked by the reaction my comment has
>>> had.  Once again, sorry if I offended any of you.
>>>
>>> Jaime
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Mitch Haley<m...@voyager.net>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ah, yes. Herr Doktor Booth and young Jaime had their disagreements back
>>>>
>>>>
>>> in
>>>
>>>
>>>> the day, which would have predated young Walt by several years. Herr
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Doktor
>>>
>>>
>>>> was of the 'stock is best' school of thought, which held the theory that
>>>> Daimler-Benz spent millions every year on engineers who were paid to
>>>> know
>>>> something about the cars they designed. Those engineers clearly knew
>>>> more
>>>> than you or I, so why would we ever dream of trying to improve on their
>>>> designs?
>>>>
>>>>
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