Electric vehicles have a problem - grid-based electricity in the US is 
dirtier than just running an economical gas-burner.

Wind power has a problem - wind being an intermittent source of energy, 
it only makes sense when coupled with a storage device, but the grid has 
zero storage capacity.

But electric vehicles are a place to store energy. Maybe wind farms near 
municipalities should include wired parking lots for lots of electric 
vehicles. That would to some degree address both problems, the cars 
would charge from a clean energy source and the wind farms would be 
connected to batteries.

Lee

LWB250 wrote:
> Points well taken, Tim.
>
> The one thing that nags at me regarding the electric vehicles is how much 
> gas/coal/oil has to be burned to produce the electricity to charge or run 
> them?
>
> I never see this in the information, and I think it's a very relevant aspect 
> of the whole electric vehicle thing.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Tim C <bb...@crone.us>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 8:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The "Dirty Little Secret Behind the Chevy VOLT"....
>
> More than that, the "anemic" sales of the Volt are clearly due to supply
> issues, since dealers don't have them in stock and can't get them.  The Leaf
> is having similar issues.  I suspect part of it, like was done with the
> early hybrids, is limiting supply so as to work bugs out with committed
> early adopters.
>
> For what it's worth I have trouble seeing the Volt called an electric
> vehicle; it is a hybrid just like my Escape, except it has a night plug for
> precharging the battery, and is built to Chevrolet (versus FORD :)
> standards.
>
> I am not a fan of the idea that all cars should have the same propulsion
> system.  Some are better suited to certain things, for example I don't think
> many in this forum will argue that diesels are the best choice for short
> trips around town, or drag racing, but I am pretty sure many of us agree
> that diesels are the best for distance and highway travel.  Electric
> vehicles have been in use for more than a century, and among other things
> make good delivery vehicles, and are common for low-speed or fixed-location
> applications already.  I don't get why the same folks who curse California
> for banning diesels get upset that battery cars are going into production.
>
> I am not arguing that the government -should- be subsidizing the cost of the
> cars, but I can see the argument that it is only making up for the support
> for oil, ethanol, and to a lesser degree biodiesel production.
>
> Best,
> Tim
> who killed the electric car (purchase because it is too expensive, for now)
> On Jun 18, 2011 9:46 PM, "Jaime Kopchinski" <jaime...@gmail.com> wrote:
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