you get a $4,000 tax credit (federal) to buy a hybrid or diesel, then get taked for it by the state! Rediculous. Chris
James Zavesky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: try this one http://www.kcbs.com/pages/kcbs/news/news_story.nsp?story_id=85908290&ID=kcbs&scategory=Computers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Canfield" To: "Mercedes mailing list" Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car > Clay, > The link tells me I don't have permission to access. What is this about? > How can I access it? > > Thanks, > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "redghost" > To: "Mercedes list" ; "Banned List" > > Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:23 PM > Subject: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car > > > > http://www.kcbs.com/pages/kcbs/news/ > > news_story.nsp?story_id=85908290&ID=kcbs&scategory=Computers > > > > > > -- > > Clay > > Seattle Bioburner > > > > 1972 220D - Gump > > 1995 E300D - Cleo > > 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA > > The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > > _______________________________________ > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > _______________________________________ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose" -1987 300TD, 150K, "Rotkäppchen" -1985 300SD, 209K, "Wulf" -1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger" --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 28 00:06:17 2005 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EgWXA-0007i3-W0 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 00:06:17 +0000 Received: from ringbill.gull.us (gull.us[24.18.9.231]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20051128000610014003d7lqe>; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 00:06:10 +0000 Received: from osprey ([192.168.1.4]) by ringbill.gull.us with esmtp (Exim 4.51 (FreeBSD)) id 1EgWWx-000Brs-Va for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:06:06 -0800 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:06:01 -0800 From: David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Concealed Carry, was Global warming X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes mailing list <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 00:06:17 -0000 This line of discussion kind of sums up my problem with concealed carry. It always seems to me that for it to make any sense as "protection," you had to be ready to shoot at any time, with an itchy trigger finger. This *greatly* raises the odds that some innocent person is going to get shot in a misunderstanding. It certainly happens too often with cops, and cops are trained in that sort of thing, unlike someone who's just picked up a gun at the local pawn shop and tucked it in their belt. Not to mention, in the public place "hero" scenarios gun advocates like to talk about, there's the real problem of knowing who's on your side. Let's say some guy decides to rob the bank you're in and five people whip out pistols. How do you know who you need to shoot and who you don't? Some of them might be in on the job. Do you shoot all of them just to be sure?