2001 Hyundai Tiburon, calipers were a dream, rotors required 2 days to
remove from the front.

Rust had formed a nice ring around the back of the rotor, capturing it
firmly to the hub. Sledge did nothing, oxy torch did nothing, air hammer did
nothing... had to use all 3 at once...

Should stop a semi after we put the big brake kit on it, uses Hyundai XG300
rotors, calipers, and pads. There's a 1030# difference between the luxury
yacht and the tibby. :)

Walt
On Oct 26, 2011 1:06 AM, "Ed Booher" <edboo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> No MB content, unless you count me offhandedly mentioning my W110 and my
> W123. There, MB content.
>
> So, the W123 doesn't like to run once it hits 50 degrees Fahrenheit. Last
> year I bought a 1998 Kia Sportage that someone appears to have left in a
> flood plain for six or seven years, then pulled out of the bog and got
> running again so they could sale it to me. Capable little 4x4, always
> starts, thought it would be an ok winter beater. Yeah, about that water
> damage, even the mesh speaker grills got surface rust on them.
>
> So, what I want to know, is anyone has ever seen this: Had to put some
> brakes on the Kia. My own personal motto, "Going is optional, Stopping is
> mandatory." Had a couple cars in my time try to kill me, so now I'm a bit
> paranoid about brakes. My brother and I start on the driver's front. Disc
> brakes. What could be simpler? Pull two caliper pins, pull the caliper,
> c-clamp the caliper back in, drop in the new brake pads and reverse the
> rest. Ah, good times, good times.
>
> So my brother and I heave and ho and he finally gets a hammer and we break
> loose the caliper bolts. Awesome, back out the top one. Can't pull it free.
> Sucker will not budge. Ok, so out comes a round chisel and the hammer to
> tap
> it out. Ok, really tap it out. Jebus! Ok, lets beat the living hell out of
> the thing. Ah good it's free and why is there a cake of rust on this pin?
>
> Cool, alright, going to get the file and sandpaper to get this pin smooth
> again, leave brother to get out bottom pin. Come back out, and he has
> caliper rotated down so that it's clear of the brake hardware. Normally you
> do this and the pin slides free even though it's still bolted to the
> caliper
> itself because of the inherent design of disc brakes, yeah? Yeah, about
> that, he was beating the living hell out of the caliper with a
> sledgehammer.
> Turns out he could get the bolt backed out ..... well ..... when he was
> turning to unbolt, it was actually "unbolting" the caliper itself. By that
> I
> mean, turning the bolt was forcing the caliper *forward* the bolt itself
> was
> not moving a mm itself within the slide groove of the bracket.
>
> We had to have worked on that thing for over an hour before we finally got
> the driver's caliper free so I could grease the pins. The assumption at
> this
> point is that whoever did brake work last did not grease them, just stuck
> them back in. Lord save me. Let's not get started on how the pads did not
> want to nicely sit in the bracket mounts, oh no, had to force those too.
>
> Anyway, start work on the passenger side, same deal. Get the bottom bolt
> broken free, and have to pound it out. Nothing we can figure to do in the
> confined space (no room for the massive breaker bar, just smaller ones) can
> get that top bolt broken free. So after another hour of beating this we
> figure we can rotate the caliper up, get the new pads in, and "forget" the
> top pin hasn't been greased for right now as I'm sure I'll need a massive
> impact wrench to get the bolt loose. Yeah, it's not having any truck with
> that, thank you very much. The caliper is happy just where it is. So we
> pry,
> and tap and at one point even use a spare jack (don't get me started there
> either) to try and get the caliper lifted, but ultimately can not get it to
> move far enough to free the pads so sledgehammer it back down and put the
> now greased bottom pin back in.
>
> So, after 4 hours I have new pads on one wheel. The rears are drums, and on
> a well maintained car with brakes changed every three months, drums are a
> pain. So I wasn't even going down that road today. So, anyone else ever see
> this? Calipers that require brute force above and beyond to get them to
> cooperate? Just curious is all.
>
> Regards,
>
> EdB
>
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