Peugeot is losing money. They are in talks with GM about some sort of alliance.
http://www.freep.com/article/20120222/BUSINESS01/202220465/France-confirms-GM-Peugeot-Citroen-negotiating-possible-alliance Gerry > On 26 February 2012 22:33, Rich Thomas <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net >> wrote: >> Last summer in Spain I rented a Peugeot diesel wagon, 5spd, it was brand >> new when I picked it up at the airport. I was pleasantly surprised at what >> a nice car it was -- hauled 4 of us and all our stuff for 9 days on >> high-speed roads and back roads and in town, A/C running (blowing ice >> cold!) and I figured (with all the conversions of liters and kms) that it >> was getting over 40mpg. I really wonder why we cannot buy cars like that >> here, and get over all this nonsense with electric scooters that are of >> limited usefulness in all but very restricted circumstances. Even a Pious >> does not do much better than that, and probably not as good in highway >> driving. >> >> I don't have strong opinions about them otherwise except -- let the car >> companies build and sell them without subsidies from the gummint (i.e., you >> and me, or those who pay taxes) and let them live or die in the market. If >> someone wants to pay huge money for one, so be it, I hope they are happy. >> But don't make me pay for their indulgence when there are much better >> alternatives out there (e.g., the Peugeot diesel wagon). >> >> --R >> >> On 2/26/12 10:21 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: >> >>> Saw one in 2K10 at google I/O, they were still billing it as an electric >>> car at that point, no mention of a fuel system. >>> >>> My understanding is that it was designed as a commuter car to get you from >>> point A.0 to A.5 since point B.0 was a bit too far away. >>> >>> Walt >>> On Feb 26, 2012 10:12 PM, "Allan Streib"<str...@cs.indiana.edu> wrote: >>> >>> Hans Neureiter<diese...@gmail.com> writes: >>>> >>>> For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles >>>>> before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine. >>>>> >>>> I thought the Volt was a series hybrid, the engine powers a generator >>>> which drives the wheel motors. It has a modest battery pack to recover >>>> energy from braking and to help out off the line, but it was never >>>> really intended to go far on batteries alone. Is that correct? >>>> >>>> Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the >>>>> battery. >>>>> >>>> Disappointing. A modern diesel in a similar-sized car would do close to >>>> double that. >>>> >>>> Allan >>>> -- >>>> 1983 300D >>>> 1979 300SD >>>> >>>> ______________________________**_________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>> To search list archives >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/<http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> >>>> >>>> ______________________________**_________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives >>> http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/<http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> >>> >>> >> ______________________________**_________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives >> http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/<http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> >> > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4835 - Release Date: 02/27/12 > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com