Make sure it is timed properly - cam, pump - Cost: Your time Compression test to make sure all cylinders have the right pressure - Cost: Your time Have the injectors tested to make sure they are all in good working order - Cost: $50? at a diesel shop
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Rolf <r...@winmutt.com> wrote: > Ah yes, that depends on where it is stuck at. > > -Rolf > > > On 5/2/2012 10:29 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > >> A stuck injector will inject very early, causing severe knock. >> >> Peter >> >> On May 2, 2012, at 9:21 PM, Rolf wrote: >> >> I will be using the om606 HG lightly coated in high temp spray on copper >>> permatex (stolen straight from the super turbo's in the eu) for my like new >>> #22, there is one hole to drill out but it's MLS vs 603 which isn't. They >>> never ever got the HG right on the 601,2,3. The #22 I have showed a blown >>> hg between 4 & 5 (once you got through all of the veg oil crap god it was >>> AWFUL). >>> >>> I would depress the valves on #5 and see what you get out of it. To >>> verify TDC, push down on the valve, shouldn't move much. >>> >>> Not sure how a plugged injector would make bad noises as nothing was >>> exploding? >>> >>> Hope you get it sorted out. What did you use to torque? Did you reuse >>> the head bolts? Roll in a new chain? >>> >>> >>> -Rolf >>> >>> On 4/30/2012 12:41 PM, Max Dillon wrote: >>> >>>> So yesterday I worked on the '87 wagon head installation until I had it >>>> to the >>>> point that I could start the car (intake manifold in place but not >>>> tightened >>>> down, no charge air pipe). It was late, I knew I couldn't get >>>> everything done >>>> before bed, but decided it would be gratifying to hear the engine run >>>> for a bit >>>> before turning it. >>>> >>>> Left all the injection lines loose, cranked until I had oil pressure. >>>> Hear >>>> dripping sound from engine compartment, find pool of oil under new chain >>>> tensioner. Apparently the end cap has a leak. Remove and replace with >>>> old >>>> chain tensioner, and try again. I notice during all this that the >>>> sound from >>>> one cylinder is different, rather a wheeze, but press on. Maybe a >>>> lifter or two >>>> isn't doing it's job? >>>> >>>> Get fuel to more and more injectors, tighten them up as they get wet, >>>> start to >>>> get some firing, and finally she lights off. >>>> >>>> Sounds terrible, hard high knock coming from #5 or #6, like a sticking >>>> valve >>>> hitting the piston. RATS!!! Engine is not running on all cylinders, >>>> idles by >>>> itself. I did not increase the RPM at all, just started it and got it >>>> to an >>>> idle. Listened for a bit, so it ran for maybe 30 seconds or so. Shut >>>> it off, >>>> took shower, went to bed. >>>> >>>> I suspect that an intake valve is sticking. Question is can I fix this >>>> without >>>> removing the head, or did I probably already bend a valve or do other >>>> damage? >>>> >>>> If it is just a stuck intake valve, perhaps I can spray a suitable >>>> lubricant (PB >>>> Blaster? ATF?) down onto the lower stem via the intake port and free >>>> her up. >>>> Thoughts? >>>> >>>> More bad news: After I replaced the tensioner, I found that the upper >>>> radiator >>>> hose was already hard with pressure. All that had happened at that >>>> point was >>>> lots of cranking and a little bit of firing from a cylinder or two. I >>>> loosened >>>> the expansion tank cap to relieve the pressure, turned the engine by >>>> had several >>>> revolutions to ensure it wasn't hydro-locked, then put the cap back on. >>>> After I >>>> shut down the engine following the awful tapping/knocking noise, the >>>> upper hose >>>> was not pressurized. Is the head/gasket leaking? Can that fix itself? >>>> Maybe >>>> the head gasket wasn't sealing until it had been heated up a little by >>>> starting >>>> the engine? >>>> >>>> Last bad news: IP O-ring is now leaking oil, so I've got to pull the >>>> injection >>>> pump and replace that, which means intake manifold off, pull the vacuum >>>> pump and >>>> I think the cruise control actuator also needs to come out. >>>> >>>> Anyone have a good OM603 laying around? I'm about ready to put mine >>>> out by the >>>> curb. >>>> >>>> Very respectfully, >>>> /s/ >>>> Max Dillon >>>> Wondering if he should start looking for a good used OM603 or OM606 >>>> '87 300TD 334k miles (The #$!! 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