Owning (or possessing) a gun in NJ is hazardous.  See:
http://reason.com/archives/2010/11/15/brian-aitkens-mistake

The original judge "filtered" the legal information provided to the jury to
ensure conviction.  The NJ Supreme Court upheld the conviction and only
commutation by the new big governor got this guy out of jail:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/brian-aitken-jersey-gun-charge-commuted-gov-chris/s
tory?id=12448867#.T7GD3esS2os

There is (or at least, was) a common mindset there that only the state may
possess power, not the serfs.  At least some cops and judges there believe
that ordinary people have no business owning guns.


-----Original Message-----
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Brian Toscano
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 9:21 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Yet another question about what it's like to live in
various parts of the country ...

In NJ I believe you are only allowed to transport guns if both the gun and
ammo are stored in separate lock boxes, and you can't stop at grandma's
house on the way to the shooting range if the gun is in the car.

If you live in Greenwich and were trying to get to Stamford, I'm not sure
15 is a good alternative?  Perhaps for traveling a long distance....

The other thing is that they generally do not necessary clear the roads
very well in snowy climates.  Maine may be different, but in on non-toll
roads in NJ/MA they can be a disaster.



On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Jaime Kopchinski <jaime...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I'll speak up about my experiences living in northern NJ.  Lets start with
> the bad stuff.
>
> Cons:
>    - Overall, very high cost of living
>    - High property taxes
>    - High traffic
>    - Generally speaking, you need two incomes in a household to live
> decently
>
> Pros:
>    - High standard of living
>    - Diversity
>    - All the good things that come with diversity:  Good
> markets, restaurants, and pretty much anything you can image eating near
by
> (there are important for me)
>    - Culture
>    - People are well educated, lots of independent thinkers
>    - Lots of industries, lots of jobs
>
> I really do like living here, as does just about everyone I know.  I live
6
> miles from the city, although I rarely go there.  The benefits of being
> near a city like NYC reach deep into the surrounding areas.
>
> Depending on your preference, you can live in a city environment,
suburban,
> or rural and never be all that far away from the city or its influence.
>  Forget the stereotypes of NJ... people don't talk like that through most
> of the state, and most people don't live near the refineries and industry
> you see along the NJ Turnpike of when you fly into EWR.  That isn't New
> Jersey.
>
> We're an hour to excellent beaches and shore line, two hours from the
> mountains.
>
> You can own a gun here, but the laws are quite different than other
states.
>  I have friends who own a few, but not many.
>
> Traffic can be a problem, but locals know ways around it.  I live in one
of
> the most congested parts of the state.  Its a bit much for me, but
> its manageable.  We're planning on moving soon, to another part of the
> state.  About 25 miles west of the city.  Someplace where the roads are
> quiet on Sunday and you can hear yourself think.
>
> Given the high cost of living, I wouldn't think about moving here unless
> you already have a job, or have experience in a field that is in demand.
>
> Back to CT... Given the example of I-95 through CT... most would just take
> CT-15 instead.  Much nicer ride, less traffic.  I-95 sucks through that
> area.  In fact, I-95 through NY is to be avoided too, take the tappen zee
> bridge across the hudson, then connect to CT-15.  There are lots of
> redundant highways in the area.
>
> I generally like the feel of CT.  Its much more New Englandy than NJ is.
>  From what I understand, property taxes are lower there, but the cost of
> homes is higher.  There are some crappy areas, but also parts where the
> super wealthy live.  I consider RI an even nicer place to live, but only
> based on my experiences of driving through a bunch of times.
>
> And, there are loads of nice old Mercedes around here.  They sold tons of
> them when new, and many are still on the road or kept in heated garages.
>
> Good luck,
> Jaime
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