I pour in GE OTR 8932Q (have enough to treat 4,000 gallons and to treat a whole tank full is about 12 cents) and don't worry about it. BUT I am interested in how it works. PROMISE, I will NOT worry about it. Actually, I worried so little that I didn't put any additive in at all when we went to -4 F. It was fine. I was having too much fun with 1 foot of snow and the 1971 Case 222 Hydrive Snowcaster to worry! :-) Chris
LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just pour in P.S. (WalMart) Diesel Fuel Supplement and don't worry about it. :-) On 12/11/05, Christopher McCann wrote: > > some additives claim to be water sequester-ers...to me, this means that > they SEPARATE the water out. Water, being heavier than fuel, goes to the > bottom where it nicely gets sucked up by your fuel line. It seems that you > would only want to SEQUESTER if you have a water separator down the > line...but if you have a water separator down the line, what's the point of > sequestering? > > A DISPERSANT disperses water...as in breaks it up into the fuel, > I think, right? In the summer, this is fine, it gets burned off in > teeeny amounts dispersed through the fuel. But in the winter, these > little water droplets can freeze and accumulate in the fuel filter, > plugging it. (I think the OM603 has a heater b4 the filter that would melt > those little ice balls and put you back to the "summer burn off scenario" > > Am I understanding this correctly? > > Thanks, > > Chris > > Curt Raymond wrote:For what its worth I use Power > Service Diesel Kleen, thats the grey bottle at WalMart. I've had much less > success using Diesel Supliment which is the white bottle and I've never > used the red bottle Diesel Emergency or whatever it is. > In real cold weather where its below freezing all the time I use > about 4oz of Diesel Kleen at every fillup. In New England temps vary > WILDLY so it might be 40F in the day time and 10F at night. Marshall > says water will condense into the tank any time temp drops 20 degrees > so Diesel Kleen gives me some water sequestering. It also raises > the cetane which makes cold starting easier. > I noticed that Diesel Kleen smells alot like Diesel Purge so I tried > using it in larger concentrations occasionally (like once every three > months) to see if it would mask Hammies failing injector(s) and it does. > When the idle gets bad I run him down to about 1/4 tank of fuel and put in > a whole bottle of Diesel Kleen (enough for 50 gallons), drive 30-40 miles > and fill up. Loping idle and hard starting disappears. I know its masking > the problem but its cheap... > > -Curt > > Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 20:14:14 -0600 > From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" > Subject: [MBZ] fuel additive > To: Mercedes mailing list > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > This is a question marshall can probably answer. Whats the additive of > choice these days? When should it be used? How about that power > service stuff they have at walmart? Every tank durring the winter or > only when its expected to drop below a certain point? > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, > 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, > 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 > Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Shopping > Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! 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Shopping From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec 11 02:56:56 2005 Received: from web2.yourserver.net ([209.126.167.63] helo=mail2.yourserver.net) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1ElHOS-0004NJ-9b for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 02:56:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 10569 invoked by uid 399); 11 Dec 2005 02:56:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dosmanosjewelry.com) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@67.131.78.2) by web2.yourserver.net with SMTP; 11 Dec 2005 02:56:54 -0000 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:54:46 -0700 From: Lee Einer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020828 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter misadventures X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes mailing list <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 02:56:56 -0000 The Ol' beast is now running again. Thanks to all of you for your input. A big issue with getting the beast running again post-filter replacement is the fact that cranking to get fuel recirculated depleted the battery (brand-new) before it could actually get things firing. My battery recharger was fer shite. Tried it for hours to no avail. I disconnected several fuel lines to the injectors and tried both the manual priming and engine cranking. Manual priming was worthless. Cranking lended drops of diesel oil out the fuel lines, but no combustion, so I elected a plan B- I went to Auto Zone, bought a pair of 20 ft long 2ga cables, and jumped the Benz from my Amigo. Started immediately. It seems that a big part of the problem was a carboned-up engine, so I have recommended an alternate path to work for my spousal unit, one that involves 3 blocks or so in-town driving followed by the remainder of the time pedal-to-the-metal on the freeway. Lee David Brodbeck wrote: >Tom Scordato wrote: > > >>I fill my New canister filter with clean kerosene. Eliminates the air >>pocket caused by dry filter. If no kerosene, poor old canister filter >>diesel into the new filter carefully. The half a pint of unfiltered diesel >>will not hurt you. >> >> > >I used left-over Diesel Purge, since I'd just finished doing a purge. >(On my VW I once used ATF.) After maybe a dozen strokes of the primer >pump I had no more air coming out. Tightened the banjo bolt and the car >started right up. > >I poured the diesel from the old filter into a jar and looked at it. It >had so much crap floating in it I didn't even want to put it back in the >tank, much less pour it into the new filter. > >_______________________________________ >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > -- Lee Einer Dos Manos Jewelry http://www.dosmanosjewelry.com
