Clay, I just sent to you off-list a copy of a composition I finished
recently about bombing the jungle and other related ridiculous policies that
prolonged the Vietnam War and led to having the names of more than 58000
brave, young Americans etched into that black granite wall of honor in DC.
The attachment is 5 pages - probably a little long to post on the List,
though I'd like for everybody to see it - I think it is very relevant for
all of us.
Wilton
----- Original Message -----
From: "clay" <redgh...@comcast.net>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: shot Down in Flames gun propaganda!
As Wilton is very aware, you can drop tons and tons of ordinance on palm
trees and dense jungles all day, all week and all year long with minimal
effect on the will of the opposition to keep on shooting the boys on the
ground.
We flew bombers over German cities and turned them into firestorms fierce
enough to turn stone to dust, as well as bounce the rubble of houses and
factories all night long, but the war still ground on. The air power was
helpful, but the boys on the ground still had to dodge bullets and mop up
that mess before it was over.
Japan was made to glow in the early morning light of two August days
before they were willing to consider calling it quits. Air power
devastated the Islands and cities thereon. We did not get a chance to
lose our boys on the ground in Japan, but a great many did perish in the
Pacific war.
Syria is using its air power, but most of the real fighting is on the
ground. Iran and Iraq flew and bombed, but again, the boys on the ground
did most of the work. George HW Bush took 100 days to liberate Kuwait,
and that took boots on the ground, after the flyboys had expended their
loads. Even the Soviets in Afghanistan were bedeviled by ground fire
while tooling about in gunships. We are not doing any better there than
the Ruskies, and over in Saddamistan, we declared victory in a few short
weeks due to air support, but took another eight years on the ground
before we gave up. To the guys on the street corners with guns.
clay
On Apr 20, 2013, at 8:06 PM, Hendrik and fay wrote:
So the basis of that dribble is that if the citizens of Germany, Russia,
Japan, etc had been armed that there would not have been as many deaths
or the dictatorships would not have happened?
I don't think so.
The pro gun mob always wheel out this sort of thing because it is easy to
understand by the average gun owner, however the reality is that you
can't fight a modern army with the stuff you buy at walmart. Sure back in
the day when the most sophisticated military hardware was rifles and
cannons, you could fight an army but these days airpower is the key to
victory and I did not see any fighter jets or attack helicopters in the
gun shops. Perhaps Wilton has a B-52 stashed away in the back yard, just
in case or a few might have build a mini drone to spy on the neighbours
but I really can't see that doing much.
However I am happy enough for the gun crowd to have their little
delusions if it makes them feel happy and secure.
No point in alarming people.
Hendrik
On 21/04/13 05:32, Scott Ritchey wrote:
I echo Max's view. This was indeed an interesting read.
The main reason the pro-gun community opposes National registration is
fear
of government (including our own). I'm certain that some on this list
believe that fear of our own government is simply nuts, paranoia. I'm
just
as sure many Weimar Germans felt that way too; after all, Germany was
the
most civilized country on the planet.
I encountered this little clip that may provide some historical
perspective
and food for thought:
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=0sujnvIV4g4
I haven't audited the numbers but, from memory, they are at least close.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Of Max Dillon
Thanks for sharing that link, always enjoyable to read a well-reasoned
and
researched explanation of any part of our constitution.
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