Clay,

I'm sorry for the passing of your Father. I salute his life and memory with
the greatest respect.

Grant.

On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 9:44 PM, clay <redgh...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Grant,
>
> you do not want the death the health system allows.  Watching through the
> night as my father met his maker was really wrenching.  The quality of his
> last month was really bad, but not horrid.  He was a proud man who kept
> himself ship shape looking.  Would be properly attired to leave the house,
> no matter where he was headed.  Even when he felt like crap, he tried, and
> mostly succeeded in pulling off being dignified.  He took three days after
> the oncologist told him he had congestive heart failure (which he knew he
> had and was being treated for over the past 15 years) instead of accepting
> her failure to treat adequately, for him to give up on living.  The last 36
> hours he was in no way dignified, as his mind shut down, and the rest of
> his body followed.
>
> Had he chosen to live his last months without chemo, he would have lived
> much longer.  Medical malpractice and the poisoning of chemo not only
> reduced his time left on earth, but robbed him of his dignity.  Had he been
> put on a cross, his end would have been a bit more dignified.  Friendly
> fire in Korea would have been more dignified.  Loosing his election to
> state legislature  (libertarian) to a quadriplegic, lesbian of color
> receiving welfare and being a crack 'Ho would have been more dignified.
>
> clay
>
>
>
> On Aug 1, 2013, at 7:45 PM, G Mann wrote:
>
> > And the alternate is what? Quality of Death?
> >
> > My apologies to the politically correct, but I'm not a fan of "quality
> > death"... it's not in my programming..
> >
> > Besides, I'm sure to die in a hail of hollowpoint DHS bullets in the
> coming
> > revolution, being a veteran, a conservative, and a Christian, I'm already
> > of the short list to be hunted down, just for existing. Let me know how
> > that works out... OK?
> >
> > Grant... Off to the Snowden retirement center for a round of
> > shuffleboard....;)))
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> In an emergency situation where you have limited resources its called
> >> triage, you save the people you can and comfort those who are traveling
> to
> >> whatever is next.
> >>
> >> Strangely in general medicine we've somehow decided that everybody needs
> >> to live forever and 90 year old patients should be kept alive through
> >> extraordinary measures but with zero quality of life...
> >>
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>
> >> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:08:22 -0500
> >> From: Mountain Man <maontin....@gmail.com>
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer [was Re: Roger?]
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> >> Mitch wrote:
> >>> Yikes, what's the point of having prescription drug insurance if they
> >> can do
> >>> that to you?
> >>
> >> It is called Death Panel.
> >> Doctors do this all the time when they participate in emergency
> >> recovery drill such as airplane crash.  Individuals are graded as to
> >> survivor or not and that is the practice.  Death Panel is not new, but
> >> when family comes to forefront, cost be damned.
> >> mao
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