yeah, it's the translation of hte story into english (well, english and spanish here as there is a large non english speaking population) that would make it work universally. they are good stories that should captivate most any watcher
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> wrote: > We were benefactors of the Florentine Opera when we lived in Wisconsin. A > great opera company that does a nice mix of traditional and modern operas > every season. > > As benefactors we got invited to all sorts of social things which often > included the performers. It was at these that I got to hobnob with the > likes of people such as Sherril Milnes. It was pretty cool to talk to well > known operatic performers like him on such a personal level. > > One of the things I liked best were the backstage talks they would do > after a performance. They went a long way in helping to better understand > the characters and plot of the opera, especially if it was one you were > unfamiliar with. > > I think too many people both present and perceive opera as a "snooty" > upper crust sort of entertainment, something that you have to be > intelligent and well bred to enjoy. It's too bad, as we would on occasion > take friends with us, especially ones who had never been, and they always > came away amazed at how much they enjoyed it. One nice thing was the use of > "supertitles" so the audience could follow the performance and understand > the dialogue. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 25, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Most opera singers are over the top personalities, outgoing and friendly. > > A couple weeks before he died on stage Leonard Warren was chatting > happily > > with the boys. Great guy, great loss. He and Richard Tucker were > > inseparable. > > > > I also remember Georgio Tozzi and Cesare Siepi. Love those basso > profundo > > voices. Funny thing about memories. I can still recite from memory the > > entire scene with the children and the madman from Boris Godunov. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> wrote: > > > >> I have hung out with Sherril Milnes on a couple of occasions. Nice guy, > >> very gracious. > >> > >> Dan who likes Puccini and Verdi > >> > >> > >> On Aug 25, 2013, at 3:15 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: > >> > >>> That's remarkable! A Met opera performer on the Mercedes List! A > >> blind, music loving friend has a classical music list. With your > >> permission, I'd like to post this on her list. > >>> > >>> (Last year?) we saw Natalie Dessay in the title role of Lucia Di > >> Lammermoor on closed circuit. We were anxious to hear her do the "Mad > >> Scene" and compare it to Joan Sutherlands which we considered the all > time > >> peak performance. She didn't do it, but it was probably forgiveable > since > >> she was doing something like 6 or 7 performances per week and we doubted > >> that anyone could do a decent Mad Scene that often. When Sutherland did > >> it, you could barely tell her voice from the (flute? piccolo?). > >>> > >>> Gerry......Okay, okay, I'll shut up about music and get back to > >> Mercedes. [:o) > >>> > >>> > >>> From: "Andrew Strasfogel" <astrasfo...@gmail.com> > >>>> I sang in the Met Opera boys' chorus from 7 until my voice changed > (11, > >>>> IIRC). I also had a couple solo roles, one of which included a > curtain > >>>> call as Gherardino in Puccini's one act opera Gianni Schicchi (usually > >>>> paired with Salome in a double bill). I lost interest in opera until > >>>> recently. Last show attended was a the Washington Opera performance > of > >>>> Manon Lescaut. > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:30 PM, WILTON <wilt...@nc.rr.com> wrote: > >>>>> Yep, they're mighty fine, too. > >>>>> Wilton > >>>>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Archer" < > >> arche...@embarqmail.com > >>>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 8:00 PM > >>>>> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I liked symphonies as a young person, especially those with a > principal > >>>>>> performer; Jascha Heifetz, for example. Later preferred opera, and > >>>>>> currently prefer vocal performers such as Dimitri Hvorostovsky, > Elina > >>>>>> Garanca, etc: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=OmPI2WNuUzE< > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmPI2WNuUzE> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=aakfkGBh-fM< > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aakfkGBh-fM> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Gerry > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Yep; fantastic! A bit late, but very welcomed. Thanks. > >>>>>>> Wilton > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Archer" < > >>>>>>> arche...@embarqmail.com> > >>>>>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:20 PM > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=_-mvutiDRvQ< > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mvutiDRvQ> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Is there an icon on that page we can click right now to hear some > >>>>>>>>> symphony? 'Probably good for all of us. ;<)) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Wilton > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Archer" < > >>>>>>>>> arche...@embarqmail.com> > >>>>>>>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:42 PM > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Beethovens 9th is undoubtedly one of the great compositons of > >>>>>>>>>> classical music: > >>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29< > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29> > >>>>>>>>>> but you can't really compare classical music to modern music. > >> Modern > >>>>>>>>>> music can appeal to a much wider range of people than classical > >> music; the > >>>>>>>>>> lovers of which undoubtedly have a "classical gene" left over > >> from their > >>>>>>>>>> ancestors. (I fell in love with classical music at age 6). > >>>>>>>>>> Classical music has many bizarre forms; partitas for solo violin > >> for > >>>>>>>>>> example; and the only way to separate the silliness from real > >> music is to > >>>>>>>>>> state that any work which does not have "melody" is nonsense; at > >> least to > >>>>>>>>>> the casual classic music listener. > >>>>>>>>>> IMO the decline of classical music began with the "Rite of > >> Spring", > >>>>>>>>>> and it's gotten continually worse (Hindemith, et al). > >>>>>>>>>> Gerry > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> From: "OK Don" <okd...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> O M G !!! Both examples are black noise. Real music > started > >>>>>>>>>>> dying > >>>>>>>>>>> after Beethoven's 9th ---- > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Gerry Archer < > >>>>>>>>>>> arche...@embarqmail.com>**wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> The broad field of nonsense music from which all modern music > is > >>>>>>>>>>>> derives > >>>>>>>>>>>> actually began in the 1920s with a South African song written > >> by a > >>>>>>>>>>>> Zulu: > >>>>>>>>>>>> "Mbube" (Zulu: lion) was written in the 1920s by Solomon > Linda, > >> a > >>>>>>>>>>>> South > >>>>>>>>>>>> African singer of Zulu origin, who worked for the Gallo Record > >>>>>>>>>>>> Company as a > >>>>>>>>>>>> cleaner and record packer, and who performed with a choir, The > >>>>>>>>>>>> Evening > >>>>>>>>>>>> Birds, where, according to South African journalist Rian > Malan: > >>>>>>>>>>>> "Mbube" wasn't the most remarkable tune, but there was > something > >>>>>>>>>>>> terribly > >>>>>>>>>>>> compelling about the underlying chant, a dense meshing of low > >> male > >>>>>>>>>>>> voices > >>>>>>>>>>>> above which Solomon yodelled and howled for two exhilarating > >>>>>>>>>>>> minutes, > >>>>>>>>>>>> occasionally making it up as he went along. The third take was > >> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> great > >>>>>>>>>>>> one, but it achieved immortality only in its dying seconds, > when > >>>>>>>>>>>> Solly > >>>>>>>>>>>> [Solomon Linda] took a deep breath, opened his mouth and > >> improvised > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> melody that the world now associates with these words: > >>>>>>>>>>>> 'In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight.' > >>>>>>>>>>>> Linda's improvised melody was wordless; no English words occur > >> in > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> recording. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Issued by Gallo as a 78 recording in 1939 and marketed to > black > >>>>>>>>>>>> audiences, > >>>>>>>>>>>> "Mbube" became a hit and Linda a star throughout South Africa. > >> By > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1948, the > >>>>>>>>>>>> song had sold about 100,000 copies in Africa and among black > >> South > >>>>>>>>>>>> African > >>>>>>>>>>>> immigrants in Great Britain and had lent its name to a style > of > >>>>>>>>>>>> African a > >>>>>>>>>>>> cappella music that evolved into isicathamiya (also called > >> mbube), > >>>>>>>>>>>> popularized by Ladysmith Black Mambazo.....snip" > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?****NR=1&v=_LBmUwi6mEo&feature=**** > >>>>>>>>>>>> endscreen< > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**NR=1&v=_LBmUwi6mEo&feature=**endscreen> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.youtube.**com/watch?NR=1&v=_LBmUwi6mEo&** > >>>>>>>>>>>> feature=endscreen< > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=_LBmUwi6mEo&feature=endscreen> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> As everyone knows this led to scream music, ( Barbra Streisand > >> and > >>>>>>>>>>>> others), which has become the current female standard; and all > >> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> infinitely variegated forms of lunatic music (Grateful Dead, > >> Punk, > >>>>>>>>>>>> etc.) as > >>>>>>>>>>>> a primary cause of the current decline of Western > Civilization. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Ou only hope is to go back to "real music" as best > demonstrated > >> by > >>>>>>>>>>>> Lawrence Welk. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Gerry....tic > >>>>>>>>>>>> ..............................****................ > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Rich Thomas" <richthomas79TD300@**construct**ivity.net > < > >> http://constructivity.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.net< > >> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I am out working on my addition, listening to KPFT Houston > >>>>>>>>>>>> streaming over > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the tubernets, and they just played a set of songs about > Louie > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Louie. How > >>>>>>>>>>>>> many of y'all remember Louie Louie by the Kingsmen? It > caused > >> all > >>>>>>>>>>>>> kinds of > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stir, clearly the commienists were behind it, subverting the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> morals of > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Merkin youth with that filthy rocknroll trash. We knew it > had > >>>>>>>>>>>>> dirty lyrics > >>>>>>>>>>>>> but no one could figure out what they were. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> We would spontaneously break into playing that in band class > >> in jr > >>>>>>>>>>>>> high, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the band teacher Mr. Broome who was about 5ft tall and wide, > >> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>> who hated > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that song with a passion (which of course became the lore of > >> Mr. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Broome > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that all kids knew, passed along, remembered, etc.) would go > >> into > >>>>>>>>>>>>> an > >>>>>>>>>>>>> altered state when he heard us playing it before class > started. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> It was the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> most awesome thing about band class. 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