I think "freedom" should comprise the ability to choose to either assimilate into the "mainstream" or to celebrate/emphasize one's cultural heritage. There are German festivals all over the US celebrated by folks who were born here, as were their grandparents. Same can be said for Italian, Greek, and other Euro-Americans. What's wrong with that?
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> wrote: > Having lived in SFO I have experienced what Richard's sister describes. As > most are probably aware, the area has a significant population of people > from Asia, mostly Chinese, some of which are well into their third or > fourth generation. > > It's interesting, as many want to maintain their cultural heritage while > also being progressive, for lack of a better term. Call it code switching > if you want - when its advantageous to be from a foreign culture, they're > Chinese (NOT Asian). When it's better to be a US citizen and assimilated, > that's what they are. > > I found this behavior rather intriguing when I was living there, as its > pretty pervasive in some areas, and not in others. I saw it a lot less as > you moved down the peninsula into higher socioeconomic areas, so maybe it's > a form of social defense? > > Dan not the MBZ Minister of Culture > > On Sep 11, 2013, at 10:53 AM, Richard Hattaway <rhatta...@rocketmail.com> > wrote: > > > " if you have a sister who truly believes as you suggest, perhaps > > your sister needs to get out more,...? " > > > > Read it again. > > > > I didn't say anything at all about her beliefs. I said she relayed to > me there was a bias. She certainly is not the only person to relay this > particular bias against Asians in her part of the country. > > > > She lives in SF. Small city by the bay. Doesn't get out much.. > > > > My post certainly is not blatant trolling. I am amazed by the cultural > differences toward bigotry and racism that exist across our country. One > man's trash is another man's treasure. I have never found issue with the > term Oriental, yet I find that it is totally unacceptable in other parts of > the country. > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: ernest breakfield <erne...@backyardengineering.org> > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 2:46 AM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is Orientals a PC term ? > > > > > > eh? (i'm going to give this the benefit of the doubt that this isn't > > just blatant trolling,... once.) > > > > > > i don't know where in California your sister lives, but in a state > > as large as California i don't doubt that you might find "some" who have > > a bias against anything you can name. > > i can assure you that in my fairly extensive travels of California, > > i have found no place where there is what i would call "a significant > > bias", and would suggest that those who may have such a view are by far > > in the minority. > > if you have a sister who truly believes as you suggest, perhaps > > your sister needs to get out more,...? ;-) > > > > cheers! > > e > > > > On 10/Sep/13 10:12, Richard Hattaway wrote: > >> My sister lives in California, and there it appears that some have > significant bias toward anyone of Asian descent, no matter the name. AFAIK > there is no bias here in that direction by anybody other than Aryan > skinheads, who are just biased, period. > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
