How flat is the battery in it? How long did you leave the booster cables hooked up before you tried to start the car? When I'm boosting my 240D I leave the cables connected for at least 5 minutes. If the battery is down enough that I need to boost it its going to take some time to get back up to where it'll start the car. I have very good, heavy booster cables by the way, cheap ones will get really hot when you're slamming power through them to a flat battery. You can really heat 'em up boosting a 6v tractor off a 12v pickup, not too bad if you're quick but my Great uncle had some cheapie cables for awhile and ended up burning the end off one. You can't start the car purely off the booster cables, your cables don't make a good enough connection, you need to let the battery in the car pick up some charge before you try to start. -Curt '83 240D "Hammie" 251kmi '85 190D "Dory" 233kmi Date: 16 Jan 2006 20:25:21 -0000 From: "Alan Duff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical system? Alan Duff Knoxville, TN --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jan 16 23:59:08 2006 Received: from [70.184.21.183] (helo=[192.168.1.100]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1EyeFf-0000Ag-UN; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:59:08 +0000 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:59:09 -0600 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Banned List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] euro 5.0 throttle position sensor and other questions X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:59:08 -0000 OK, slowing working out the little bugs with the euro 5.0 in the US 380. I figured out this thing has a throttle position sensor which is located under the air meter deal, fuel distributor etc right on the side of the throttle body. The euro engine has a wire with a flat 2 lead connector, the US car and another US car I have here has a round 3 lead connector for the sensor. I have a high idle of 900-1K rpm and am assuming this is probably the cause. I also seem to have a very slight surge when maintaining the same speed going down the road which also leads to this. Anyways, Im assuming Im going to have to swap the sensors. Any way of doing this short of removing the whole injection system? Thinking about taking the whole thing off anyways and putting the US version back on. On the US version there is a wire that is supposed to hook up to some sort of valve just to the left of the fuel dist. There is a small fuel line that comes out of the fuel dist that goes to this valve with the electrical connection, then if goes back out of this valve and around to another valve on the back of the fuel dist that has a vacuum connection on it. From there I think it goes to the warm up regulator but cant remember off hand. The euro motor does not have this setup with that valve and therefor the wire is not hooked to anything for it. Anybody know what this is for and what it causes when not hooked up? Think I should put the US stuff on the euro motor or just swap the throttle sensor and leave it at that? With the US injection parts on the euro motor, will it decrease the power? Im sure nobody will know much about this since this is sort of new territory but thought I would ask. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net