What are the before and after numbers? Which states? COuld any other factors be involved, such as incarceration rates?
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 2:19 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > In the interest of fairness with numbers, how about having a look at the > dramatic drop in crime of all types each time a state has passed concealed > carry permitting laws? > > In every case there has been a sharp decline in crime. In that same line of > thought, take a look at the murder and crime capitals of the USA. In every > instance, they are states which severely restrict or out right ban private > gun ownership. > > If you remove these "Unarmed Victim Zones" from the quoted calculations by > Brady group, the number of deaths by shooting is well below that of > England, for example [Which is for all intents, unarmed] and places USA > near the bottom of the list as number 4 out of the 204 countries of the > world for the number of shooting deaths. Keep in mind there is an estimated > 298,000,000 firearms owned by Americans [that figure may even be > conservative]. That number alone says there are millions of responsible gun > owners who use their private arms while carefully avoiding shooting another > person. > > Believe what you wish, however, for myself, I prefer solid facts backed by > logic, not emotion. > > http://americangunfacts.com/ > > Grant.. > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Probably not, last year (or was it early this year) the Obama > > administration put out the 33,000 number which even they admit is > probably > > half suicides... > > > > Also the thing below doesn't admit that the number has been falling > > steadily for the last 40 or so years. > > > > -Curt > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > To: M. Mitchell Marmel <marme...@gmail.com>; Mercedes Discussion List < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:44 AM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] N > > > > > > You might not like the source, but are the numbers correct? > > > > RB > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/09/2014 7:17 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote: > > > At 2:15 PM -0500 9/9/14, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: > > >> *The big picture:* > > >> > > >> * Every year in the U.S., an average of more than 100,000 people are > > >> shot, according to The Brady Campaign To Prevent Gun Violence > > > > > > There's your problem there, the source. They have a rather large axe > > > to grind. > > > > > > -MMM- > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner > > has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner > > has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner > has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
