A heartfelt thank you to WIlton for his posting. I also have friends at the Wall, and have given that salute of respect.
In my case, I went from 2 tours Vietnam to 7 years of Afghanistan, working with Mujhadeen and Pashtun tribes in Northern Tribal Territories of Pakistan, followed by other postings in Iran, Turkey, Saudi, etc etc.. All the vacation hot spots of the world.. Even today, I can remember the smell of pita bread toasted over a camel dung fire and goat meat.. yep.. lovely... with a side of open sewer... On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:41 PM, G Mann <g2ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > As civilized humans it is our duty to recognize deadly threats and respond > with suitable deadly force to preserve both ourselves and civilization. > That is a basic human right given by our Creator [insert your own religious > belief here, or not] that has survived every advance and decline of > humanity. > > It is so basic it has nothing to do with "raging militarist", in my humble > opinion. > > Having lived among the muslim world for more than a decade, I understand > the culture of violence that encapsulates, perhaps better than others. > FWIW, isis can only be crushed for civilization to survive where ever isis > touches. > > Respectfully, > > Grant... > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> I am not a raging militarist, but how can we turn our backs on the >> barbarism that is ISIS? >> >> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Craig via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> wrote: >> >> > On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:02:09 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes >> > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > > THE TRAGEDY AND THE WALL >> > > By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret) >> > >> > Not a silly Sondy tale, but thank you, Wilton. >> > >> > >> > > We had conducted the most intense bombing campaign ever against the >> > > most heavily-defended complex in history. I was confident that the >> > > campaign was over, that it had been won and that the war was finally >> > > ending as we departed Hanoi for the last time. >> > > .... >> > > During the following two years, however, after US forces had >> withdrawn, >> > > Congress gave away what had been so dearly won. >> > >> > And we are about to get into another situation like Vietnam and >> > Afghanistan. Years ago, we trained the mujhadeen in Afghanistan to fight >> > for us. What did that get for us? Hardened adversaries using our weapons >> > and training against us. >> > >> > In Syria, training and supplying the rebels to do our fighting for us >> has >> > all the hallmarks of both Vietnam and Afghanistan. With as loose and >> > convoluted things are among the Muslim in the mid-East, it is very >> likely >> > the weapons we provide will be used against our troops or Israeli >> troops. >> > >> > In trying to take a "short cut" for a quick, easy solution -- "no >> > American boots on the ground" -- we are setting ourselves up for even >> > more long-term grief in the mid-East. >> > >> > >> > > Even North Vietnam’s military commander, Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap, agreed >> > > with me .... “What we still don’t understand is why you Americans >> > > stopped the bombing of Hanoi (in Dec ‘72). If you had pressed us a >> > > little harder, just for another day or two, we were ready to >> > > surrender! It was the same at the battle of TET in ’68. You defeated >> > > us! We knew it, and we thought you knew it. But we were elated that >> > > your media was helping us. They were causing more disruption in >> > > America than we could on the battlefields. We were ready to >> > > surrender. You had won!” General Giap merely confirmed what many >> > > Americans already knew. The Vietnam War was not lost on the >> > > battlefields in Vietnam — it was lost at home by public opinion and >> > > given away by Congress. >> > >> > And there it is. The media were and still are against the best interests >> > of the American people. They are only interested in keeping themselves >> and >> > their cronies in power. >> > >> > >> > Craig >> > >> > _______________________________________ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those >> > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. 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