Here's a pipeline story, one that helped us win WW2. I imagine they didn't do an environmental impact report before installing this one... https://www.youtube.com/v/Nv9lBqPVuoE&feature=uploademail
On Feb 22, 2015, at 5:40 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: From: "Scott Ritchey" <ritche...@nc.rr.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: US oil train safety report from The Associated Press Date: February 22, 2015 3:24:09 PM PST No news here. Back in the 70s, I was part of an environmental review for building a pipeline to get jet fuel (JP4 then) to Edwards AFB. Pipelines aren't perfect but they are so much better than truck or rail that the pipeline was a hands-down winner from a safety and environmental perspective. Of course you need to use a lot of the stuff to amortize the cost of building a pipeline > -----Original Message----- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max > Dillon via Mercedes > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 4:09 PM > To: Mercedes > Subject: [MBZ] OT: US oil train safety report from The Associated Press > > http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OIL_TRAINS_SAFETY?SITE=AP&SE > CTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-02-22-12-00-23 > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 From: Peter Frederick <psf...@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: US oil train safety report from The Associated Press Date: February 22, 2015 3:37:34 PM PST To: Scott Ritchey <ritche...@nc.rr.com>, Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> And you also have to maintain and repair your pipeline. Most of the resistance to the Keystone XL comes from the history (rather bad, actually) of the owners. They are notorious for large leaks and poor maintenance along with slow and inadequate response to problems in their existing lines, and I think are responsible for the failure due to poor maintenance of the last two very large spills from pipelines. Even with that pipelines are better than derailing trains with exploding tanker cars. It appears that the new design is just as prone to failure as the old "inadequate" one when you start tossing them around. Tar sands crude requires significant thinning with volatile solvents to move in any way, it is much MORE viscous when "extracted" than road tar. This makes it worse than ordinary crude. Peter _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.