I never tailgate and don't own drone so our paths will never cross. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 16 March 2015, 01:36PM -0400 from Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>: You of course have the right to operated the drone but if it begins to infringe on my rights I have an equal right to react. Since I'm a nice person I'd start by asking you to stop, if you failed to stop you'd stop having a drone. Same thing as when you tailgate me. You have the right to tailgate but I have the right to drive really slow... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com > To: G Mann < g2ma...@gmail.com > Cc: Mercedes Discussion List < mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - My Drone Buddy Gets into Trouble My right to own and operate a drone vs. your right to privacy? On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:37 PM, G Mann < g2ma...@gmail.com > wrote: > Again, I invite you to read and understand the 10th Amendment of Bill of > Rights. > > A Right can not be taken, it can only be surrendered. > > You may have surrendered yours.. I have not. > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote: > >> Under what law? >> >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote: >> >> > Not property rights fool, PERSONAL rights and responsibilities. You fly >> > your drone over my house and I have the right to knock it down... >> > -Curt >> > >> > >> > From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com > >> > To: G Mann < g2ma...@gmail.com > >> > Cc: Mercedes Discussion List < mercedes@okiebenz.com > >> > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:25 PM >> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - My Drone Buddy Gets into Trouble >> >> > >> > So you have no problem with a civilian (non-gov't.) overflight or 24/7 >> > aerial surveillance of your property? Or buzzing around outside your >> b/r >> > window? And since you believe in Property Rights Uber Alles if you >> knock >> > this thing out of the sky you will have to pay for it. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:19 PM, G Mann < g2ma...@gmail.com > wrote: >> > >> > > Yes. >> > > >> > > Government does not ask permission before flying drones to spy on >> you, it >> > > is only equally fair we citizens would do the same. >> > > >> > > Who would you rather be stalked by, an ex girlfriend or a government >> > > agency with unlimited power and an armed drone? >> > > >> > > A quick read of the 10th Amendment of the Bill of Rights is suggested. >> > > >> > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < >> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote: >> > > >> > >> So are you guys saying there should be no controls on private >> > >> citizens flying drones anywhere, anytime they please - including >> spying >> > on >> > >> you or anyone else? >> > >> >> > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:17 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes < >> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > Dan Penoff wrote: >> > >> > > Remember that drone footage I posted a link to a few months back? >> > >> > > That's a guy that works in our building, who is now in trouble >> with >> > >> the >> > >> > FAA for flying his drone for "commercial purposes." >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> >>http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/28417965/faa-to-tampa-man-dont-put-drone-video-on-youtube >> > >> > > >> > >> > > As I understand it he's pretty much told the FAA to pound sand, >> > >> which, I >> > >> > believe, is a pretty dumb thing to do. Even more so when you're a >> > >> > government employee yourself. >> > >> > > Should be interesting to see how this pans out.... >> > >> > > Dan >> > >> > ...................... >> > >> > >> > >> > Sounds like someone complained to the FAA. The commercial angle >> might >> > >> just >> > >> > be an excuse to try and stop him without mentioning the real >> reasons >> > >> which >> > >> > could relate to security of various sorts. A large drone can carry >> > >> enough >> > >> > explosives to do serious damage according to one article. >> > >> > Seems to be lots of government concern about drones in general with >> > >> > several states enacting laws regulating them. >> > >> > The government is running tests around the White House and DC >> trying >> > to >> > >> > find ways to disrupt their communication and Florida is doing the >> > >> following: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> http://www.bing.com/search?q=drone+laws+florida&qs=AS&sk=AS4&pq=drone+laws >> > ≻=8-10&sp=5&cvid=c5c3a53824b74e74aa438983b6c5a6cf&FORM=QBLH&ghc=1 >> > >> > >> > >> > or search: "drone laws florida" >> > >> > >> > >> > If he really wanted to test his "drone rights" he could take his >> drone >> > >> up >> > >> > north of Tampa a few miles and take pictures around the large >> nudist >> > >> camp, >> > >> > or down to Boca Grande and take pictures of the Rockefellers and >> other >> > >> rich >> > >> > folks around their enclaves. >> > >> > Gerry >> > >> > P.S. The info on his drone that I passed on to friend in >> Tallahassee >> > was >> > >> > much appreciated. He is now flying a drone around the area and he >> > sends >> > >> you >> > >> > his thanks. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________ >> > >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> >>https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________ >> > >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> > _______________________________________ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > >> > >> >>https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > >> > >> >>https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> >>https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com
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