What about if that is what he was ordered to do in order to execute his
mission? There is some deal that lying to an infidel is not a lie.
So maybe going to a bar and acting like a queer is ok if it part of the
plan? All I know is that you can't trust anything they say.
It is safe to assume everything BO sez is a lie. So far that assumption
has been borne out.
Seems like there were some of the 2001 hijackers partied pretty hard the
day before. I'd have to check my memory on that....
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That whole dialogue really doesn't ring true, does it?
If you know islam at all.. you know it has strict prohibition aganist even
touching alcohol, much less drinking it..
World wide, the number of homosexuals executed by muslims and in islamic
countries continues..
Yet.. we are supposed to absorb the sound bite that this guy, who went to
mosque [and a strict one at that] frequented a gay bar, got drunk there?
Naw.. ain't buying that..
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WHen it is a moose, the gun did it. If a non-moose does it, then it
is all about how terrible white christians (and guns) are.
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Now it is being reported that the whackjob was gay, had been drunk at
the bar several times over the last 3 years. I had wondered this when
I heard it, a very conflicted gay muslim taking out his issues in this
way. Father (Taliban supporter) called him gay, his former wife, whom
he beat, said he was gay but that the American authorities told her
not to say that.
And NPR reporting he used "an automatic-style rifle" and making it all
out to be about the "automatic-style rifle."
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On 13/06/2016 3:55 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
That is the real issue - are you willing to
risk your self and your family to keep your rights?
And that relates to the shooting in the bar in Florida.
If you were one of the police officers who attended the scene would you
have wanted to charge inside to get the bad guy?
The lack of information should have made them cautious. Somewhere inside there
is someone killing people. I assume no one knows for sure if it is one shooter
or several.
The police do not want to get caught shooting innocent by-standers. They don't
want to get shot themselves etc. It is a no-win situation.
If you have a wife and children at home, you shouldn't want to be a dead hero.
You need to wait while someone sets up a co-ordinated plan of attack that
makes it less likely that the officers will be killed or
injured when the team storms the place and takes out the bad guy(s).
Might be bad news for the folks inside, but it would be foolish to waste
trained officers in some mad scramble if no one has any clue what is actually
happening.
RB
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The nightclub gaurd, an off-duty police officer, did engage the killer in gun
fire before the police arrived.
The police engaged the killer in gunfire after they arrived and one officer got
shot in the head, but his Kevlar helmet save him.
Then the killer holed up in a bathroom with five hostages and began talking to
police on his cellphone.
After long conversations, he made comments that sounded like he was going to
kill the hostages, so the police used some sort of vehicle and punched holes
through the outside walls into the restrooms.
At some point they ignited a noise bomb to cause confusion and the hostages
escaped through the punched hole. Up to 30 escaped from another bathroom
through another hole that had been punched in the wall.
Then the killer came out through the hole and exchanged gunfire with the police
and was killed.
This was the NYT version of the events from last night. It may be changed after
hostages have been interviewed and/or some sell their story to the media. If
this version is true, then the police did ignore their own safety and go after
the killer, and probably prevented more hostage deaths.
Gerry
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And that relates to the shooting in the bar in Florida.
If you were one of the police officers who attended the scene would
you have wanted to charge inside to get the bad guy?
The lack of information should have made them cautious. Somewhere
inside there is someone killing people. I assume no one knows for sure
if it is one shooter or several.
The police do not want to get caught shooting innocent by-standers.
They don't want to get shot themselves etc. It is a no-win situation.
If you have a wife and children at home, you shouldn't want to be a
dead hero. You need to wait while someone sets up a co-ordinated plan
of attack that makes it less likely that the officers will be killed
or injured when the team storms the place and takes out the bad
guy(s). Might be bad news for the folks inside, but it would be
foolish to waste trained officers in some mad scramble if no one has
any clue what is actually happening.
RB
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