The 5.7l v8 is excellent. Our RAM 1500 is just over 104,000 miles and doesn't 
seem to leak/consume any oil between 10,000 mile changes. Its got buckets of 
power (345hp?) and the transmission is great. It gets decent fuel economy for a 
4wd 4 door pickup, I can get it up to 21mpg on my commute which is better than 
I ever did with the Ranger it replaced.On the website it looks like the base 
Charger is only available with the 3.6l Pentastar v6 but its a very popular 
engine. The Charger is surprisingly expensive, base price $26k+, the Sonata 
starts $5k cheaper. The Genesis coupe is about the same price...
-Curt

      From: Donald Snook <[email protected]>
 To: Curt Raymond <[email protected]>; Mercedes Discussion List 
<[email protected]> 
 Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 11:36 AM
 Subject: RE: [MBZ] OT leasing a car
   
I have never thought leasing a car was a good idea unless it is for someone who 
wants to drive a new car every few years and doesn't mind always having a car 
payment.  I haven't had a car payment for years and I prefer to pay cash for a 
car and drive it for a couple years and get another one.  The reason for the 
lease is for taxes and as a business expense.  If it were my decision, I would 
definitely rather buy a used car.  I have never driven a Passat and I'm not 
usually a VW fan because I have concerns about reliability.  But, with a lease 
of a new car, I suppose that wouldn't be an issue with a warranty. 

I really like the looks of the Impala.  When they still had the 3800 engine 
(years ago), I thought they were excellent cars.  My wife had a charger a few 
years ago (2010 Model) and I did like the room.  It had the 3.5 engine.  I 
don't know if they make the 2.7 engine anymore, but I understand they are total 
junk.  The 3.5 seemed plenty peppy.  I know a few police officers and Highway 
Patrol guys that love their chargers. But, they have the hemi engines in those. 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Curt Raymond [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 10:15 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT leasing a car

I know companies like to lease stuff since it keeps it off the ownership books 
but with that kind of mileage it'd probably make more sense to own or even to 
rent which is kind of a strange thought.
I'd add the VW Passat to the list, they're big and roomy, the gas engines are 
pretty zippy, sadly I think you still can't get a TDI.
The new Impala is supposed to be something special, I'm hoping they hit the 
rental fleet pretty soon, I'd like to try one. The Sonatas are very nice, much 
nicer than the equivalent Toyota for for less money.
Camry is super boring and you'll lose it in parking lots full of identical 
cars. I've been there, had to click the key fob to figure out which car was 
mine...
The Charger can be a decent car if its not got a horrible rental car 
transmission. I'm stunned that Chrysler still makes garbage cars for rentals. 
They make people think the cars are way worse than they are. They make a very 
good engine these days but still make rotten sloppy slushboxes. On the other 
hand the upper end transmissions like the 9spd in my parent's Cherokee are 
smooth as silk...
-Curt

      From: Donald Snook via Mercedes <[email protected]>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <[email protected]>
Cc: Donald Snook <[email protected]>
 Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 11:07 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT leasing a car
  
I MAY have a new job opportunity that includes a new car lease.  I am not sure 
about the details yet and therefore I am speculating about the terms.  So, this 
may be a bit of day dreaming.

Given what I am guessing is a monthly lease amount, I am wondering which 
vehicle would be best.  I don't think a Mercedes would meet the $ criteria. So, 
here are some possible options:

Ford Taurus
Chevy Impala
Nissan Altima
Dodge Charger
Hyundai Sonata (although the Genesis would be nice, but probably too much $) 
Toyota Camry

Any opinions on these?  I know that's a broad question.  I like bigger cars 
(I'm 6'3" and 250).  So, I think the Taurus and Impala would be the roomiest.  
I have heard a lot of good reviews about the "zero gravity" seats in the 
Altima.  I might be driving as much as 600 miles a week.  This could make 
leasing a car very difficult because putting that many miles on it could be 
prohibitively expensive.

Don Snook
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