Anyone else remember the old JC Penny stores that put your bill and payment in a thing that was loaded into a vacuum/pressure tube and wisked off to the cashier, then your receipt returned by pressure? I think that would be a great way to replace cars. just jump in a vacuum cartridge and be whisked along by air pressure.

Oh! Wait! compressed air is expensive...maglev... naa we need star trek transporters.
clay via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
November 13, 2016 at 10:33 PM
This is utopian and will result in massive corruption and absconding with taxes by the municipalities. The roads in Seattle are crap. We have very mild winters, so it is not from ice heave, just poor planning and outlay of revenues for infrastructure. The “leadership” has many “social” plans for money over actually keeping the roads functional. The state does the same theft of funds and over extension of socialist agenda items. Right now the Legislature is in contempt of the state supreme court because they are not funding public education as required by our constitution. With road fees, there is no way it gets put into asphalt or repairs.

Autonomous cars are not going to be useful for all users. The lowest common denominator will be what ends up on the road. It will be a Corolla not a Camry. The people who do not mind a buzzy, rattling ride will be fine. Taxis usually run a more upscale ride. Not that a old cop car is upscale, just more comfortable. Prius seems to be the go to for Uber, or town car/suburbans. If the self drive cars were an E class, Tesla, or at least a mid level car, there would be more expense than was pointed out in the article.

There is also an issue with getting your ride when you want and need in my mind. NYC people are used to taxi timelines. Normal people are not really interested in waiting around for some schlub to show up to get them to work, shopping, out for a party. If the car will arrive within five minutes, there may be a better market. Anybody with kids will want great access to rides, to get kids to soccer, play dates, therapy. Would a person really trust a robot to get their pride and joy safely from spot A to B? I do not trust my W220, and I drive it myself. Were it self driving, I would choose to walk, because I am sure that car would get confused and kill me. The Teslas are killing people. Pilots depend on the computers to fly, and sometimes that does not work out. In a car, maybe you kill four, instead of 100.

I doubt the build out of roads that are tech capable and compatible with the needs of self driving cars can be done within the next two decades. Our local light rail just got voter approval to build out a few short stubs which will take 15-20 years to link to two other municipalities within 20 miles. These are single routes to the east and north. It will require massive investment in parking and links to other ground transport that have not been thought through. The Big Dig in Boston is much less complex than the engineering and costs autonomous cars will require to safely transport even a fraction of the populace. The population density to support that system would rule out all but the largest urban areas and leave suburbs and outlying areas underserved.

clay

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Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
November 13, 2016 at 6:18 PM
I have been having a low-key conversation with a coupla friends about this topic, I would be interested to hear y'all's thoughts on it, especially from the perspective of new roads requirements and the more effective use of existing transpo infrastructure.

MB content in a linked article

http://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2016/11/10/reset-the-car-conversation-with-autonomous-cars


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