I understand that point, but a heaver car is more likely to survive than a
Yugo type car.  The VW is a Yugo type car.  If I was so worried about
getting in an accident I would only drive My F-250.

Kyle

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Worrying about the car surviving an accident is backwards. The car dies in
> an accident so that the passengers might survive. In an accident energy
> MUST go somewhere, you want the car to take that energy, not you...
> -Curt
>
>       From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: Kyle Arola <kylearola1...@gmail.com>
>  Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:06 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: VW doesn't like buying back stripped TDIs
>
> I don't care about VW polluting (every manufacturer has probably cheated at
> some point) and their pollution is not the reason we chose the buyback.  We
> are participating in the buyback for the simple reason that once we receive
> our money (we put over 1/2 down) we will be debt free.  As in totally, no
> house payment, no land payment, no car payment, or CC payments....
>
> We chose the W123 wagon simply because it is the coolest wagon on the road,
> Period.  No other wagon comes close. It also has an incredible engine for
> longevity when cared for properly.  We did not choose it for it being a
> diesel, just a bonus for us as my truck is a diesel (polluting bastard that
> is is "ROLL COAL!") and my tractor on the farm is a diesel (Roll Coal
> Jr.).
>
> We have to have a station wagon, and the modern wagons suck.  They look
> like crap sandwiches.  We rarely travel on the interstate, and local roads
> are pretty slow going.  Safety is great in a W123 wagon, for what it is,
> and most likely will survive a minor fender bender better than our VW would
> have with it's plastic parts and exploding airbags.
>
> I cannot speak for others participating in the buyback, but there are other
> concerns as well.  Long term support, parts availability, EPA approved fix,
> and dealer support.  Let alone if the EPA does not approve a fix and you
> keep the car and cant register it... Too many questions and easier to get
> out now than wait for the hammer.  For my family at least.
>
> Kyle
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Bingo.  Kyle is one example, trading his modern VW diesel for a 123
> diesel
> > thirty years old.
> >
> > Which pollutes more?
> >
> > How many other VW owners will make a similar choice?  Net pollution
> > generated going up or down?
> >
> > We haven't even touched on passenger safety.
> > --
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> > '87 300TD
> > '95 E300
> >
> > On December 27, 2016 7:50:44 PM EST, Dimitri via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >I agree it's total bs. I mean lets get real here- the current vw
> > >diesels don't smoke or stink. If they don't smoke or stink then they
> > >are polluting a whole lot less than older diesels. And they get like
> > >45-50 mpg which means that less fuel gets consumed which means fewer
> > >greenhouse gases get produced as compared with almost all gas and
> > >probably most hybrid powered vehicles.
> > >
> >
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