On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 23:15:30 +0000 (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> You don't drive it very far though. Cold starting takes amps out of > your battery, the 123 has a relatively small (70a?) alternator. It > takes time and revs to put the amps you took out back in. A battery > minder plugged in during these cold times will help the battery stay > charged up. -Curt I agree with Curt. But just in case Andrew wants to continue his mule-headed ways and throw money at the car: https://www.napaonline.com/napa/en/promotions/battery?icid=q1_jan-feb2017_$20-mail-in-rebate-napa-legend-battery While he is there, he should have them test the battery and the alternator. They probably will tell him the battery should be fully charged before testing ... Fortunately, changing an alternator in a W123 is MUCH easier than in an '89 Chevy G20 van. Craig > From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 5:21 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel > > Balogna. I drive this car EVERY day. > > The simplest explanation is usually the answer. Gonna test my Diehard. > > What does NAPA sell? > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Well, when you buy die-Easy crap batteries in place of real batteries > > what do you expect? > > > > Did the guy adjust the valves right? Are the clearances right at > > current temp? > > > > If your engine/starting system was in good shape it would not need a > > heater at moderate temps like you have. > > > > You probably need a new cord for the heater, or it needs to be > > plugged in to the heater. > > > > Check the GP resistance > > > > Check that each GP is getting power and the relay is working > > > > Air, fuel, fire/compression. You need all three for internal > > combustion. > > > > Valves not adjusted = low compression = no fire > > > > <5 working GPs = no fire > > > > air leak= no fuel > > > > Plugged intake= no air > > > > I was in a home despot and saw they had group 49 batteries on the > > shelf. $119 I'm thinking that is the best deal around. > > > > If you insist on overpaying for batteries, at least buy and > > interstate, You WILL get a good battery for you money. you pay 50% > > more for the die-easy and get 50% less battery for an application > > that needs 100 to 150% battery. > > > > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> January 10, 2017 at 9:56 AM > >> I broke down and got a jump-start this morning. It really needed to > >> crank and the battery wasn't up to the job. No heat in the engine, > >> so the block heater is inoperative. I tried the light bulb trick, > >> with no luck. Now the question remains, what is my problem? The > >> system glowed perfectly and the relay is good. Could it be glow > >> plugs? I just had a valve adjustment so that's not it. My instinct > >> says it's the DieHard battery again. I've had to > >> replace this roughly every 18 months. > >> > >> On Jan 10, 2017 9:26 AM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> January 10, 2017 at 8:25 AM > >> I did that with the block heater in the ASV trail groomer the > >> snowmobile club has. We weren't sure it was working so I put the > >> Kill-A-Watt on it, sure enough it was drawing 800 watts. That > >> machine is terrible to start in the cold, the block heater is pretty > >> much required. -Curt > >> > >> From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> Cc: Jim Cathey <jim.cathey...@gmail.com> > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 1:51 AM > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold starting your dizzel > >> > >> > >> > >> On ours you can hear the gentle hiss when they're working. If it's > >> quiet outside. Otherwise, ammeter/wattmeter. Kill-A-Watt is highly > >> recommended, > >> and fairly cheap. Dozens of uses! > >> > >> -- Jim > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> Jim Cathey via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> January 10, 2017 at 12:51 AM > >> > >> > >> On ours you can hear the gentle hiss when they're working. If it's > >> quiet outside. Otherwise, ammeter/wattmeter. Kill-A-Watt is highly > >> recommended, and fairly cheap. Dozens of uses! > >> > >> -- Jim > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> January 9, 2017 at 1:01 PM > >> I wonder if my W123 300TD block heater is broke > >> > >> Had to plug it in to start Sat. night (18 deg.) but then it would not > >> start > >> Sunday although plugged in for 30 mins. Left it plugged in overnight > >> and this AM no luck - wouldn't fire. It's either gelled fuel or a > >> block heater gone south (no pun intended). I'll plug it in again > >> tonight but test for warmth to see if there's any action. I just had > >> the valves adjusted too... The outlet is OK - checked that. > >> > >> On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> January 9, 2017 at 9:04 AM > >> > >> > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > Craig ---------------------------------- Present: '82 240D/3.0 Bluebell 285 kmi (Still need to fix leaking oil pressure gauge and do something about the failed hood paint and attend to the headlight switch -- and now I need to do something about the broken left rear trailing arm) '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the BRV, the Big Red Van) Past: '95 E320 Sebastian 135 kmi RIP '94 E420 Oskar 127 kmi RIP '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
