How cold is "bitter cold"? Your car should start easily down to at least 0F and 
probably colder than that.
A dead glowplug would make the car idle poorly until it warmed up a little, 
you'd basically have a dead hole for awhile.
-Curt

      From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
 To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> 
Cc: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] so much for rock auto
   
I don't have any starting problems EXCEPT when it is bitter cold, and I suspect 
that problem is caused by a faulty block heater.  I do have a low idling 
problem at ignition, which I have yet to address but it has nothing to do with 
GPs or injectors.
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Maybe that explains the starting problems you've been having. I've had to 
replace glow plugs in every MB I've ever had.I've only been driving MBs since 
2003 but I've put on close 300,000 miles, 90k each on the '83 240D and '85 
190D, more like 50,000 miles each on the '78 240D and '84 190D.
I had injectors cleaned on the '84, it helped it idle more quietly but didn't 
fix the rough starting problem it had, I think that was probably leaking rubber 
hoses.
-Curt

      From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] so much for rock auto
  
I've driven 123 turbodiesels continuously since 1989 for over 100 K miles
cumulatively and can't recall ever replacing either injectors or glow
plugs.  Just the GP relay and fuse.

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> They do it for you, silly!  You just go through the catalog and choose the
> car model and year, then click on the RSS icon and it goes into your RSS
> feed.  Any time there is a change you’ll get a notification.
>
> Can’t get much easier than that.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 28, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I still have not really gotten into rock auto yet, and keeping track of
> when they have stuff cheap
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Feb 28, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, but you have a $50 minimum for free shipping…
> >>
> >> I’m amazed at some of the deals Rock Auto has had lately for name brand
> stuff.  I bought a bunch of Mann filters from them recently, and they were
> less than half what I would pay anywhere else.  When they arrived I checked
> them against a known good Mann and Mercedes filter, and everything about
> them was legit (including the Mann boxes they were in, too.)
> >>
> >> A lot of their stuff is not what I would put on a car, but if you stick
> to the name brand items you can often find some good deals.
> >>
> >> My usual go-to guys are FCP Euro, but I’ve found them to be spotty on
> what they carry on occasion.  For instance, they had a left side Febi motor
> mount for the 300SEL, but not the right side.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Feb 28, 2017, at 12:32 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> <https://www.fcpeuro.com/ products/mercedes-diesel-glow-
> plug-0001597701a>
> >>>  Mercedes Diesel Glow Plug - Bosch 80006 <https://www.fcpeuro.com/
> products/mercedes-diesel-glow- plug-0001597701a>    $8.19        $40.95
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> $2 cheaper per item at FCP
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>>
> >>>> On 2/28/17 12:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>> He who hesitates….
> >>>>
> >>>> -D
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Feb 28, 2017, at 12:26 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> BOSCH 0250201039 {#80007, 80008} Info <http://www.rockauto.com/en/
> moreinfo.php?pk=5416257&cc= 1194038>
> >>>>> (Only 1 Remaining)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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