Well, Ja. But why not take yer own measurements and design yer own? I've never paid for plans for anything! I have an Ames Draft-Pak, will travel.

Designed my own house, garage, trusses, stairs, spiral/combo stairs, commercial building, 70 gal/squeeze cider press and a bunch of other things i've forgotten about.

I was forced once, however, by the state of HI to get an engineer's stamp on a set of drawings to assemble an industrial mezzanine. They did not respect the stamp of da haole guy who did da engine-erroring.

If you are DIY, you won't need to buy any plans.
Max Dillon via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
March 1, 2017 at 6:03 PM
Those caskets are expensive! I think a good set of plans is about $80 - $100, that would be the ultimate DIY.
Curley McLain <mailto:126die...@gmail.com>
March 1, 2017 at 5:56 PM
ayup!  Right there with shysters.

One way to keep em from cheating you is to BYOC. (BYO casket) Buy one here, and the local FD can't rip you off. http://trappistcaskets.com And, the $$$ goes to a good cause, not buying a bigger boat or plane for the FD.


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
March 1, 2017 at 5:40 PM
When my mom died in 06 they had funeral insurance with the local funeral home. You buy a policy for an amount like $10k or so then all the funeral stuff is done with that, casket, the service, embalming, transport, whatever. So a few months later I am sorting through all the estate stuff, and I find this other insurance policy for $10k, no idea what it is. So I call up the insco to find out, I have to send them paperwork so a coupla weeks later I get a call from them saying they paid the funeral home with the proceeds. I told the girl my mom had a policy specifically for that, why did they pay this to the funeral home. She says well they called and said they needed to get paid for the funeral. Keep in mind as far as I knew they were not on this policy, my dad was the beneficiary. The girl had no idea why they had done that, there was no real record of it and however it sorted out. I didn't even know she had this policy, it was something she bought ages ago. WTF?

So I call this woman I had dealt with at the funeral home, she was no longer there and I get the runaround. So I call my auntie, who knows everyone in this little town, and she gets me the name of the head guy over there. So I ring him up, explain the situation, where is this money? He claims not to know anything about it but will check and get back to me. A week later no call, so I ring him back, finally reach him, and he hems and haws and yeah they should not have got that money as there was another policy specifically for the funeral. He never could explain exactly what happened but it was pretty clear I busted him and his little scam. I suggested I would have my dad's lawyer and the county prosecutor (I had dealt with her extensively related to another situation of people ripping them off) discuss the matter with him, and OBTW how much exactly did that funeral cost and how much was that other policy? A few days later I get a check for like $17k which included however much that policy was worth and the leftover from the funeral costs. So basically this outfit was a bunch of damned thieves, tried to rip me/my dad off for $17k. I got to thinking about how many other people they probably scammed like that, no one would really ever know unless they did a really detailed study of all the dead person's papers and such to figure it all out. My parents's stuff was a complete mess, so it was kinda happenstance I found this policy and then chased it down.

--FT




Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
March 1, 2017 at 5:23 PM
Indiana University has a whole program ( https://medicine.iu.edu/give/body-donation/ ) dedicated to the donation and handling of human bodies for medical research. We had a guy assigned to us that was in contact with us through the whole process. He even got to wail on the funeral director who picked up my Mom’s body from the care facility then more or less held her hostage for the costs of transporting and storing her. This guy was the “designated” funeral home for the facility and they called him first instead of calling the people at IU like they were supposed to. He refused to release her body unless we paid his costs ($350) for removal and transportation.

We immediately contacted our guy at IU. All we know is that the guy from IU went down and saw the funeral director face to face and within minutes her body was being transported to IU like it should have been to begin with.

I talked to a high school buddy of mine who runs a funeral home in the same area about it and he knew about this particular guy and his business. Apparently he was known for pulling stunts like this. He said that the IU people probably suggested that he wouldn’t like a complaint to the state about his practices as he had been busted and fined for similar infractions in the past.

-D




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Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
March 1, 2017 at 4:23 PM
My wife and son did these ceremonies for the people in the cadaver lab, they are treated very seriously and very considerately, and the students learn to appreciate them too, having carved up the bodies. It is kind of a humbling experience and makes the bodies more "human" after they are done.

--FT





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