Thanks, that's an interesting article.

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Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 2:41 AM fmiser via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> > Randy wrote:
>
> > I have a battery that may be junk. I had it on the charger one
> > afternoon this weekend at  a 2 Amp rate. It did not come up to
> > the point where the charger light turned from red to green
>
> Is that a Red Green reference?  *smiles*
>
> Sounds to me like maybe it needs de-sulfating/equalizing.  This
> effectively means a controlled over-charge.  It will shorten the
> life of the battery - but if it's junk (or nearly so) that's not
> much of a risk.
>
> But if you don't have a way to set the charge 16 V, it may not be
> practical.
>
>
> Here is the text of an article on the topic.
>
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> from https://shop.pkys.com/Battery-Equalization_ep_44.html
>
> Battery Equalization
>
> Equalizing lead acid batteries is a process designed to
> de-sulphate the battery plates by carrying out a controlled
> overcharge. Battery plates tend to acquire a sulphate coating
> over time which then hinders the chemical action between the
> electrolyte and the plate.  By equalizing the battery in this
> controlled overcharge the outer layer of the plate, including
> the sulphate coating, is blown off, thereby rejuvenating the
> battery and allowing all the surface area of the plates to
> interact with the electrolyte.  It also causes the electrolyte
> to bubble and in wet cell batteries this mixes up the acid and
> distributes it evenly throughout the cell.
>
> Recommendations on the frequency at which equalization be
> carried out vary from monthly to once or twice a year.  Some
> manufacturers only recommend it be carried out when necessary,
> (Trojan), or once every six months or as necessary, (Rolls).
> My personal experience is that equalizing the batteries is a
> rather tedious, worrisome and smelly process so once or twice
> a year is more than enough.  I particularly recommend it
> though for boats that rarely come to the dock.  Such vessels
> get their batteries fully charged less often and seem to
> report tired batteries on a more frequent basis than boats
> that get fully charged on a regular basis.
>
> Equalizing the batteries is a tool that can be used to
> rejuvenate tired batteries or to prevent batteries from
> becoming tired.  As a tool it is a double edged sword of
> course, this removal of the outer layer of the plates reduces
> their size and volume and thus their longevity. The material
> removed will fall to the bottom and may eventually short out
> the plates. I find that the best way to decide on whether to
> equalize and how often is to consult the information from the
> relevant battery manufacturer.  You will find different
> opinions even among battery manufacturers on the way
> equalization is to be carried out.
>
> Victron Amp Hour MeterIf you are reading this article it is
> probably because you are having battery trouble. One of the
> best ways of heading off trouble in the future is to install
> an amp hour meter to give you a better idea of how your
> batteries are performing.  Scroll to the end of this article
> for more information.
>
> Equalizing wet cell batteries
>
> 1. The batteries must be fully charged to begin with.
>
> 2. Disconnect all loads. You are going to allow the battery
>    voltage to rise higher than normal; to 15 or 16 volts for a
>    12 volt battery bank. You don't want to damage sensitive
>    electronic equipment that might be connected.
>
> 3. Remove any hydrocaps fitted to the cells
>
> 4. Connect the charger and set it to the equalizing voltage.
>    (For Trojan wet cell batteries the recommended equalizing
>    voltage is 15.5 volts for a 12 volt bank, for Rolls the
>    equivalent voltage is 15.5 - 16 volts)
>
> 5. Batteries will begin gassing and bubbling vigorously
>
> 6. Don't allow the battery temperature to rise much above 115
>    degrees F and never above 125 degrees.  Measure from a
>    center cell.
>
> 7. Take the specific gravity at hourly intervals
>
> 8. Equalization is complete when the specific gravity no
> longer rises.
>
> For Rolls batteries the end of the instructions were more specific
>
> 9. If severely sulfated, it may take many hours for the
>    specific gravity to rise.
>
> 10. Once the specific gravity begins to rise the bank voltage
>     will most likely drop or the charging current will
>     increase. The charging current may need to be lowered if
>     temperature approaches 125F (46C). If the charge
>     controller was by passed, it should now be used or put
>     back in line.
>
> 11. Continue measuring the specific gravity until 1.265 is
>     reached.
>
> 12. Charge for another 3 hours. Add water to maintain the
>     electrolyte above the plates.
>
> 13. Allow bank to cool and check and record the specific
>     gravity of each cell. The gravities should be 1.265 0.005
>     or lower. Check the cell electrolyte levels and add water
>     IF necessary.
>
> Equalizing AGM and other sealed batteries
>
> Equalizing AGM and other sealed batteries is a bit more tricky. The
> bubbling electrolyte results in some loss; electrolyte vapor exits the
> vent caps. However because there is no way to replace the lost
> electrolyte it is obvious that a different strategy is required. I
> couldn't find any manufacturer that recommended equalizing Gel
> batteries. These batteries are highly sensitive to over-charge and
> equalizing is not going to work for them. However although I did find
> a manufacturer that definitely did not recommend equalizing their AGM
> batteries (Trojan) I did find at least one manufacturer (Lifeline)
> that did recommend equalizing their AGM batteries. Lifeline use the
> term "Conditioning". They say this should only be done when the
> battery is showing loss of performance due to having spent extended
> time in a partial or low state of charge, or that don't often get
> charged above 90%  (Cruisers that never come to the dock please take
> note!) Lifeline AGM instructions:
>
> To apply a conditioning charge, first go through the normal charge
> cycle to bring the battery to full charge. The conditioning charge
> should then be applied by charging for 8 hours. At 77F (25C), the
> conditioning voltage should be set at 2.58 VPC (15.5 volts for a 12
> volt battery). The conditioning voltage at other temperatures is shown
> in Table 5-2. By using the temperature compensated conditioning
> voltage, batteries that are not in controlled temperature environments
> may be conditioned without bringing them to room temperature. If
> temperature compensation is not available, it is best to bring the
> battery as close to room temperature as possible before applying the
> conditioning charge.
>
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