That was my first thought, leadership issue.  People / employees can be 
screened and trained, takes leadership to make it happen.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On August 6, 2019 3:47:16 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
<[email protected]> wrote:
>A friend is a team leader on a build section on the 787 line in 
>Charleston.  He tells me stories that suggest management is not too 
>plugged into the line guys and willing to listen to their experience
>and 
>expertise until it costs them more time or money, which is not 
>infrequent due to component manufacturing errors/delays and bad build 
>procedures.  He came from a construction management background, so
>knows 
>how to read prints and how to use a tool and how to figure things out. 
>
>It has taken 3 or 4 years for his direct management to acknowledge he 
>actually knows what he is talking about, and now they will listen to
>him 
>but it has to be sorta on the quiet as their processes don't encourage 
>that approach for some reasons not clear.  I think a lot of them are 
>touchy because of the union issues in Seattle, which is not an issue 
>here.  He also has told me that the workforce skills of late are quite 
>lacking, some of the people they hire need courses in remedial 
>wrench-holding and such, they are pretty much ignorant.  That is a 
>state/local govt issue given how they have given lots of incentives for
>
>these companies to locate here, and there is considerable pressure now 
>on the workforce which seems to be fairly engaged because of all the 
>other opportunities, and those who are at the lowest end of the 
>distribution are not particularly sharp.
>
>I get the impression too that a lot of the "controversy" is due to
>union 
>agitators who keep trying to get a foothold here.  He doesn't have 
>strong feelings one way or another, he has run the numbers and says the
>
>union wouldn't offer much, and would be a pain in the ass to deal with,
>
>so not a lot to compel support.
>
>--FT
>
>On 8/5/19 7:08 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
>> The issues with the 787 appear to be sloppy manufacture, not design
>defects.  I think it's fair to assume that if the assembly crew is
>leaving tools and trash on the planes the actual assembly is probably
>suspect as well. Something about attention to detail, I think.
>>
>> Boeing may yet regret moving their assembly plants to areas of
>historically low wages and no recent aerospace construction, it's not
>quite like tossing sloppy out of square cinder block foundations
>together.
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