This whole key business is complete BS. Apparently R129 keys are just now 
becoming available in the US in some limited quantities, have been in yurp for 
a few months. Spendy. I guess the IR lock part needs to be programmed at the 
stealer. I think 210 and 163 keys are also quite spendy. 

On the 05 ML500 I had to reprogram the recognition of the key (which has a 
small chip of some sort in the housing) using the fancy computer to pair it to 
the car then a sequence of key buttons presses. The car computer only has 8 
keys (chips actually I think) it can recognize, I don’t think you can get a 
duplicate of one you have had but a new key has to be paired against one of the 
remaining codes the car will recognize. And of course the metal part needs to 
be cut. The chip and metal key are apparently central to the thing actually 
starting the vehicle. But the remote aspect does the (un)locking and that is 
what the car listens for. 

There are supposed programming things ($$$) on eBay that will (re)program a key 
but reports suggest its hit or miss. Some locksmiths “might” be able to do it 
with some fancy box but I don’t know. 

I’m wondering if the 99 ML320 stuck in limp mode might have had a chipped key. 
The 05 does but all I have for the 99 is a straight metal key, and I can’t get 
the fancy computer HHTWIN program to talk to the car though a cheap WiFi OBD 
reader will see some codes, so I’m not sure what the deal is with it. The 
computer talks fine to the 99 E320, go figure. 

--FT
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> On Jan 14, 2020, at 4:15 PM, Rick Hawkins Java Letterpress Cycles Photon via 
> Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Folks
> 
> I lost the key to my 2007 Kia Sedona. And the remote. I screwed around and 
> talked to some locksmiths etc who told me a bunch of lies and bullshit  
> Anyway, with some difficulty I got the key code for free from Kia Country of 
> Savannah  Then I found a nearby locksmith who made me 2 keys for $50 which 
> was too much, but they fit. These are NOT transponder keys which I does not 
> have. Has anyone tried to program a $10 remote on a Kia? That is the next 
> project
> 
> Now, since I have the 2004 Dodge [sprinter] with only one key, I thought I’d 
> look into getting a spare for that. I called the stealer in Savannah and they 
> will happily sell me a switchblade fob and key for .... get ready for this 
> .... $499. But wait, there is more THEN you have to contract with the service 
> Dept to get that programmed ... I didn’t even bother to get a quote on that. 
> They lost me at $500 for a key.
> 
> Has anyone been here and done that? Either the Kia remote or a sprinter 
> transponder key?
> 
> Xx rick
> 
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