From the movies I've watched, the passenger can easily attempt to strangle
the driver - hence the need for the driver to be prepared to defend himself.

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 10:55 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So I guess the passenger was carrying some sort of weapon?
>
> I am skeptical given the vetting process for Lyft and Uber drivers...
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:52 AM Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Depends on which seat the passenger is in. If he's sitting behind the
> > driver you shoot right through the seat. Otherwise you'd have to lean
> > around, its awkward no matter what.
> > First 38 seconds... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33MV7fvdhxI
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Thursday, January 23, 2020, 11:43:44 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via
> > Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > That wasn't my question.  How does the driver shoot someone in the back
> > seat?
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:31 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Easy.  Criminal in back seat brandishes a weapon and demands some
> > property
> > > which belongs to the driver.  Any action the driver takes can be
> > justified
> > > as self defense.  If the criminal actually uses force, the driver's
> > > response is also self defense.  For instance, criminal puts a knife to
> > > driver's neck and asks for money.  Now you have capability (knife) and
> > > intent (ask for $) and opportunity (close physical proximity).
> > > -------------
> > > Max
> > > Charleston SC
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:20 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Self defense?  How would this have played out with the passenger in
> the
> > > > back seat?
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 7:37 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The victim, identified in the report as a 51-year-old man, was
> found
> > > > > unresponsive in the car’s back seat, the report said. He suffered
> > > > apparent
> > > > > gunshot wounds and was declared dead at the scene.
> > > > >
> > > > > Police have not determined whether the killing was an act of self
> > > defense
> > > > > or
> > > > > which ride-share service employed the driver. (but they've
> apparently
> > > > > determined
> > > > > that the guy who apparently attacked the driver is a "victim")
> > > > >
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