My understanding it that all the masking is DISPOSABLE, like supposed to be single use, not constant use. Unless somebody has a massive stockpile of mask in a box, they are re-using a polluted scrap of cloth, multiple times a day, that has gathered the toxic waste products of the distanced people within ten feet of them.
That can not be healthy. I can see washing the dust out of your bandana, cowboy. But paper filled mask, made at home from your convenient local coffee filter is not likely to hold up. Maybe the all cloth mask should be baked in an autoclave. Just for safety sake. That could be the Next Big Thing, a home autoclave for all the mandated sanitation of articles of public contact. Not sure about the rest of the people, but doing demolition, construction projects and insulation insertion, I find that a mask is good for about 30 minutes of protection, then needs replacement. clay I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > On May 20, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Very few people outside hospitals wear or have access to surgical masks. > Most people are wearing home made is lam coverings. THe oxygen deprivation > and/or CO2 accumulation is unknown for these, and is probably in line with > the results of the study you want to trash outright. > >> Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> May 20, 2020 at 4:33 PM >> Masks could be helpful. The evidence is not great as Max alludes, but they >> definitely do not increase transmission and look increasingly like they >> provide benefit in preventing transmission. There are no harmful effects; >> whoever wrote the O2 thing is full of BS. >> >> This was a recent summary, with refs: >> >> https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=137495654570048&id=100553591597588 >> >> Facemasks, facemasks, facemasks! The transmission control strategy so >> effective, safe, and nice, we say it thrice! (Now, with numbers!) >> >> FACEMASKS: SAFE FOR DOCTORS AND THOSE WHO PLAY THEM ON TV >> >> Much of the worry about masks centers on misunderstandings about carbon >> dioxide. >> >> Ever had surgery? Did you notice all the fully alert, bustling, masked >> people- many of whom wear masks for 24+ hours in a row (đđźââď¸been there, >> got the scrub top). Medical types prefer to keep their wits about them. >> Operating, making snappy decisions, flirting with the scrub nurse (thatâs >> for the TV docs)- it requires those masked people to be firing on all >> cylinders. If wearing a mask led to re-inhalation of oneâs own carbon >> dioxide (called âhypercapniaâ) and the resultant sleepiness and trouble >> thinking as mask detractors claim, weâd all be wandering around maimed from >> zombified surgeons. And there would be way fewer baby showers for the TV OR >> staff. >> >> More specifically, the porous nature of the material used for both >> medical-grade masks and cloth masks fully permits normal respiration. If >> you can inhale through it, you can exhale through it. There is no trapping >> and recirculating of air (otherwise it would blow up like a balloon when >> you breathe out). >> >> LYING ABOUT HAVING AN OBSTRUCTIVE AIRWAY DISEASE IS LIKE BUYING A SERVICE >> DOG VEST FOR YOUR IGUANA AND I DONâT WANT TO SIT NEXT TO YOUR IGUANA, KAREN >> >> Also circulating around is a printable card citing the Americans with >> Disabilities Act and stating the bearer does not need to comply with >> masking, which anyone can print. >> >> Firstly, COPD patients are extremely vulnerable to viral infections and >> could use the extra protection masking affords. Many people with mild, >> well-controlled COPD can tolerate a mask just fine, since the added >> resistance is minimal, but people with more severe disease cannot. >> >> Ever been on a flight with someoneâs pet in a fake service dog vest? How >> did lying work out? Donât be an emotional support peacock. >> >> FACEMASKS: THEYâRE ABOUT YOUR FACE, BUT NOT AN ABOUT-FACE >> >> There is confusion about why initially masks were NOT recommended, but now >> they are. In early March the world experienced a catastrophic shortage in >> Personal Protective Equipment, most of which was made in China. Frontline >> health care workers were barebacking it, despite caring for patients >> suffering from a lethal infectious disease. Many became infected, and some >> died. Hospitals rationed equipment like it was the elixir of life. We came >> up with clever ways to reuse and sterilize masks. We all remembered fondly >> the days when we just *threw the extra gloves which come out of the box all >> glommed together away* like we were glove billionaires or something. >> >> Against that backdrop the public was advised not to wear masks. That was >> not because masks werenât safe, effective, or a great idea. It was because >> masks were RATIONED where they were needed most. >> >> Now, things have opened up- medical masks are available again. Cloth face >> coverings, which are insufficient for frontline health care work around >> massive doses of virus, have been proven effective for the general public. >> Masking is now strongly recommended. Nothing about the virus or our >> understanding of it has changed. >> >> YOUR MASK IS NOT A VIRUS CLUB MED >> >> Some people have argued that breathing into your mask sprays it chock full >> oâvirus, and then youâll reinfect yourself constantly, like some kind of >> COVID Dutch oven. Firstly- anything that comes out of you was already in >> you, and canât make you sicker. Itâs sort of like how eating your own arm >> canât make you gain weight. And also remember, coronaviruses canât live >> outside their host cell long. A trip outside into your mask is not a >> relaxing day at the spa, itâs an event which results in likely viral >> denaturing and degradation. >> >> That being said, you should launder your cloth mask in hot water >> frequently. And donât handle anyone elseâs, because then you could get >> their virus, and donât let them handle yours. >> >> JUST LIKE LOADING THE DISHWASHER, THEREâS ONE RIGHT WAY TO WEAR A MASK >> >> And that way is: over your mouth and nose. Not folded up on your chin. The >> virus doesnât burrow into your beard, so no need to protect it. Thatâs the >> equivalent of frisbee-ing in the plates into the bottom rack. >> >> I FEEL FINE. NO, REALLY. WHY SHOULD I WEAR A MASK? >> >> If youâre healthy and well you could easily be an asymptomatic case. >> Remember up to 85% of transmission events are from people who feel well and >> therefore donât modify their behavior, so infect others. If you feel sick, >> you should definitely wear a mask, to protect others (and you shouldnât be >> out and about). If you are medically fragile you should wear a mask, to >> protect others and yourself. >> >> I BELIEVE YOU MENTIONED NUMBERS >> >> Facemasking is the single most effective strategy to reduce COVID >> transmission. NO MATTER THE RISK, FOR AN INDIVIDUAL OR A PLACE, ITâS LOWER >> WITH MASKING. Summary of the evidence: >> >> -a mathematical model for COVID in New York and Washington shows: a) if 80% >> of people wear cloth masks which are 20% effective, mortality is reduced by >> up to 65% in low-prevalence Washington. đ In high-prevalence New York, >> wearing 50% effective masks reduces mortality by up to 45%. (1) >> THIS MODEL EQUATES MASK-WEARING TO THE REDUCTION IN BETA (#CONTACTS AN >> INFECTIOUS CASE MAKES) SEEN IN VERY STRICT SOCIAL DISTANCING. MEANING >> EPIDEMIOLOGICALLY, MASKS REPLACE LOCKDOWN. >> >> -a mathematical model for influenza showed if only 25% of people wore masks >> which were only 20% effective, there would be a 30% drop in transmission. >> (2) >> >> -Korean study showed 30% reduction in infectious SARS-CoV-2 with cloth >> masks at 8 inches away from an infected person (3) >> >> -Hong Kong study showed masking was very effective at reducing transmission >> of alpha coronaviruses (4) >> >> -homemade cloth masks reduce influenza transmission by about 45% (5) >> >> -masks made from pillowcases and t-shirts are about 1/3 as effective as >> medical grade masks (6) >> >> -homemade masks made from four layers of paper and 1 layer of cloth were >> 95% as effective as N-95s against aerosols (also 6) >> >> -98% of the populations of Hong Kong and Singapore have worn masks in >> public since their COVID outbreaks, with phenomenal containment (7) >> >> SOURCES _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
